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Re: Secondary wire & insulation

Subject:  Re: Secondary wire & insulation
  Date:   Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:41:15 -0500
  From:   "Robert W. Stephens" <rwstephens-at-headwaters-dot-com>
    To:   tesla-at-pupman-dot-com


> Date:          Sat, 07 Jun 1997 19:28:56 -0500
> To:            tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com
> Subject:       Re: Secondary wire & insulation
> From:          Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>

> Subject:  Re: Secondary wire & insulation
>   Date:   Sat, 7 Jun 1997 18:17:52 +0500
>   From:  "Alfred A. Skrocki" <alfred.skrocki-at-cybernetworking-dot-com>
>     To:   Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> 
> 
> On Fri, 06 Jun 1997 15:01:29 -0400 Edward J. Wingate
> <ewing7-at-frontiernet-dot-net> wrote;
> 
> > Alfred,
> > 
> > I beg to differ with you. I have an 18" dia. classic coil wound with #18
> > thhn machine tool wire to a winding length of slightly over 3' which
> > will produce 8 to 9 ft arcs. This is almost 3 times the coil length in
> > spark output, which I consider *fairly* efficient. This coil is *not*
> > space wound and has never ever broken down between turns in the 6 years
> > it has been in operation.
> > 
> > I have obtained 5 times the coil length in spark output( 10 to 12 ft)
> > with some of the extra coils I have used on my magnifier system. These
> > extra coils are tight wound with plain old #18 heavy polythermalize
> > magnet wire and don't break down between turns either. I space wound my
> > first coil with magnet wire, but later learned that it isn't necessary
> > or even desireable on a properly tuned system. In fact you lose precious
> > inductance by space winding!
> > 
> > If you would like to see for yourself:
> > 
> > http://users.deltanet-dot-com/~stcole/hv/wingate.html
> > 
> > None of the pictured coils are space wound.
> > 
> > Richard Hull has achieved 10+ times the coil length with an extra coil
> > that is a mere 4" X 12" and is *tight wound* with #30 Kynar wire wrap
> > wire!! That one doesn't break down between turns either but it sure gets
> > HOT! 
> 
> Ed, it is certainly possible to wind close wound coils when one 
> specifies the insulation for their wire, BUT not all of us can afford
> to do that! Most of us get what we can, when we can offord it, and 
> that usualy means the lower grades of insulation.  When dealing 
> with the lower grades or unknown insulation I feel that space winding 
> is the only safe way to go! Most of my coils have spaced windings and 
> all of them are good performers having discharges of from two to 
> three times their length and one with discharges of over five times 
> it's length!
> 
> 

> 
 
Hold the phone guys!

I once made a secondary coil on a classical two coiler that sucessfully
developed
an output streamer (repeatable) to a grounded target which measured 15
times 
the coil length.  I apparently employed AMAZING FEATS OF SUPERBLY
SUPERIOR ENGINEERING, no less!  It's ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

Sorry though, I can't discuss it in any detail because I know a guy who
personally
knows, and in fact is actually dealing with, at this very minute, a
lawyer.

But, I DO STAND BY THIS CLAIM!!!!!!!!!

rwstephens