-------------------------------------- Moerator's Note - I'll save the obvious reply. John Couture's books and program can be obtained from him by E-mailing him at: couturejh@worldnet.att.net -------------------------------------- From: Cabbott Sanders <cabbott@cyberis.net> what or where can i get John's manuals which people have spoken of? -- Cabbott Sanders Salem Oregon Website: http://members.aol.com/cabbotttt Phone 503-390-8992 Cel 503-930-9173