# Re: Secondary Theory (Was Bipolar Coil)-Heretical view

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• Subject: Re: Secondary Theory (Was Bipolar Coil)-Heretical view
• From: Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>
• Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:04:05 -0600
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```Hi Dr. Resonance,

Of course, your correct.  The electron velocity in conductors (electron
drift velocity) is extremely slow.  I think a person can out run them if I
remember right.  The wave of energy, as you say, is what I meant.  In our
AC coils, the electrons hardly move at all...  I think the velocity is
controlled by the electron's mass, charge, and E-field they are in.  Not
too complex but it has been a long time since I have looked at that stuff...

There is no doubt that the capacitances in the secondary system are
"interesting".  Since the primary and the secondary of our coils have
significant capacitance between them, there is also a capacitive coupling
coefficient at work.  This may be offset some by the fact that the primary
is usually bipolar.  The effects of turn to turn capacitance is also fairly
unknown...  Indeed, just as magnetic forces transmit energy between the top
and bottom of the coil at high speed, the capacitance effects also transmit
energy in the coil.  Perhaps these two forces transmit equal energies??
While the over all effects my be understood, there are details like these
that could use a lot more study...

Terry

At 09:18 PM 5/17/99 -0500, you wrote:
>to: Terry
>
>I wish to point out a slight flaw in paragraph #2.  It was never assumed the
>electrons travel through the secondary wire anywhere near the speed of
>light.  Actually, electrons only move several meters per second --- a good
>hotrod car can easily outrun them.  The wave of energy does travel down the
>wire at high velocity.
>
>A mechanical example would be a water wave.  Imagine a cork floating
>offshore as the waves move inwards.  The cork represents the mass of the
>electron which bobs vertically while the wave of energy moves through it and
>towards the shore at a much higher relative velocity.  The cork does
>displace and eventually reaches the shore but only after hundreds or
>thousands of waves have moved past it.  Electron to electron energy transfer
>is severly hampered by the inertial mass of the electron.  This mass of
>course changes depending on whether the electron is more wavelike or
>particlelike which depends on the energy in the system.  These "initial
>conditions" may be modeled with differential equations like the Corums did,
>however, they forgot that the initial conditions are not always static (as
>you mentioned) in nature --- fractals need to be employed to develop an
>effective model of this highly dynamic system.
>
>The wave of energy travels down the wire and is impeded by the wire's
>inductance, but another factor enters the equation that plays a far more
>significant factor --- the capacitance of each turn of wire (distributed
>capacitance) which can rapidly charge and then transmit it's energy through
>capacitive reactance at an extremely high velocity.  I personally think more
>investigation should be done regarding the transfer of energy from turn to
>turn as this may be a very significant source of energy transfer along the
>secondary coil.  These effects would also help to explain some of the rather
>weird differences between present theory and practice.
>
>Food for thought.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dr.Resonance
>
>
>snip.............

```