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Re: Maggies & their schematics



to: Reinhard

>From the ASCI diagram I can't tell for sure.  You only need a normal primary
coil and a normal secondary coil --- not 3 coils.  You place the normal sec
coil approx 8 ft away on elevated stand.  You feed the bottom of sec over to
a moveable tap that attaches onto existing primary coil.  With a pole pig
this normal primary would have inner end grounded.  The series cap feeds the
moveable normal primary tap.  The only difference is you moved the normal
secondary coil and now need to connect it into the normal primary coil to
feed power to it.  It becomes a series resonant inductor.  Works very
nice --- be sure to have a lot of primary turns ---- even with scrap wire so
you can experiment over a wide range of taps until you get it right.

The advantage to this system is the primary can be completely enclosed in a
plastic box with a single feed line coming out.  Feed should be very low
loss like 00 ought welding cable.

Regards,

Dr.Resonance


-----Original Message-----
From: Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 8:03 PM
Subject: Maggies & their schematics


>Original Poster: "Reinhard Walter Buchner" <rw.buchner-at-verbund-dot-net>
>
>Hi Doc R.,
>
>> Original Poster: "Dr. Resonance" <Dr.Resonance-at-next-wave-dot-net>
>> If you have a medium to large coil try this experiment.  Remove the sec
coil
>> and place it 8-10 feet away on a suitable insulating stand.  Now tap into
>> the normal primary coil and feed this to the bottom of the sec coil.  It
>> does require some retuning and is a bit more difficult as you now have
two
>> taps to more around, but the results are very interesting.  I would ask
>> anyone on the list to try this with some of their coils -- you will be
>> amazed at how well this works out.   You can eventually enclosed the pri
>> with taps into a large box and just feed the output over to your elevated
>> sec coil.
>
>A very interesting idea. If I understand you correctly, it would look like
>this:
>(please use courier to view)
>
>Schematic #1:
>
>                                       --------
>                                       |Toroid|
>                                       --------
>                                          T
>                                          T
>                                          T
>                                          T
>                                          T
>                                          T
>                    P=s                   T
>                    p=s                   T
>                    p=s                   T
>                    p=s<------------------T
>                    p=s
>                    p=s
>x-------|----||---->P
>x       |           P
>x       0           P
>x                   P
>x       0           P
>x       |           P
>x-------|-----------P
>
>
>x: secondary of the hv xformer
>P: primary
>p=s: upper part of primary being "misused" as secondary.
>T: Tertiary coil (was secondary)
>
>Schematic #2:
>In comparsion here is a "conventional" maggy.
>
>                                       --------
>                                       |Toroid|
>                                       --------
>                                         T
>                                         T
>                                         T
>                                         T
>                                         T
>                                         T
>                                         T
>                                         T
>                                         T
>                   --------              T
>                   |Toroid|--------------T
>                   --------
>                      S
>                      S
>                      S
>x-------|----||---->P S
>x       |           P S
>x       0           P S
>x                   P S
>x       0           P S
>x       |           P S
>x-------|-----------P S
>                      |
>                      |
>                      |
>                     ---
>                     ///
>
>
>If I understood your setup correctly, it would have to be run without
>a ground. While I can understand that schematic #1 WILL produce
>spark output, what spark lengths can one expect? By pure gut feel
>(as I have never tried this), I would think a simple 2 coil setup should
>produce longer sparks and that the "traditional" maggy setup would
>also produce longer sparks. Your suggested idea seems like a huge
>autotransformer ("secondary" part of the primary and the secondary
>coil now being used as a tertiary coil) being fed by a resonant power
>source (primary coil and primary cap). I would expect the output of
>this setup to be MUCH more dangerous than a traditional coil or maggy
>setup, because the 50/60Hz are superimposed on top of the high
>voltage output (not that I recommend taking hits from a traditional
>coil setup). Could you explain your suggested setup a bit further
>(i.e: why does it work and if it produces longer sparks than a
>traditional coil, why)? Of course I mean spark length comparison
>for equal input tank circuit (i.e. input VA and input Joules)
>
>How do you go about designing such a system (i.e. formulas)
>For a traditional maggy you would need these parameters:
>
>Total C = (Cs+Ctoroid)(sec)+(Ct+Ctoroid)(tertiary)
>Total L= Lsec+Ltertiary
>FRes for the "output" side would be the function of Total C & L,
>so I would need to tune the primary to this "combined" frequency.
>
>How would I do this for your suggested setup? I.e.: how do I
>calculate the capacitance of the "secondary" part of the primary?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Coiler greets from germany,
>Reinhard
>
>
>