RE: Terry's Test - Two Manifestations of Charge

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Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Dave,

At 10:38 PM 7/4/2005, you wrote:
> Hi Terry,
>
> ...............
> >
> > Yes, it is easy to reproduce.  If we can agree that just a
> > tube on Styrofoam will have "equal" sparks,  I will spare our
> > atmosphere the mercury vapor release...
>
> If you are talking about breaking off the tube end, that isn't
> necessary.  Any piece of aluminum on the end of the Styrofoam
> should have the same effect.  I haven't tried the effect with a
> non-vacuum tube in between the topload and ground.  But I have
> tried the effect with a tube that was not grounded.  I got the
> same results whether the tube was grounded or not.
........................


I tried the end of a tube on Styrofoam this afternoon:

http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest-10.jpg

http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest-11.jpg

The spark from the toroid to the tube end and from the tube end to the 
ground wire are now exactly the same.

From the diagram at:

http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest.gif

The i2 currents are now gone since the Styrofoam is very none 
conductive.  It certainly appears to me that the difference in spark 
appearance seen before is just do to displacement currents being picked up 
by the partially conductive tube and adding to the i3 current making that 
spark brighter as seen before.

http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest-02.jpg

http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest-04.jpg

In DaveTest-02 you can see the significant i2 currents lighting the 
florescent tube and how the current increases toward the top.

So, I see nothing unusual that field and circuit theories (the old ones) 
would not easily explain.  The tests seem to work just as expected.  When 
one first sees the effect, it seems strange.  But a little investigation 
easily explains it.

Cheers,

        Terry