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Re: Tesla Coil Firehazards (Exploding paint cans) (fwd)



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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:12:44 -0700
From: huil888 <huil888@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Tesla Coil Firehazards (Exploding paint cans) (fwd)

Nathan -

So this is not an NST at all, it is a 15KV, 1ma (that's ONE milliamp) DC 
power supply. And it was driving a coil producing 26 inch arcs? Absolutely 
incredible performance, better by at least a factor of 10 then any other 
Tesla coil ever built.

Please be so kind as to share the construction details with us

Scott Hanson
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From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Tesla Coil Firehazards (Exploding paint cans) (fwd)


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> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:47:23 -0700
> From: Nathan Stokely <50kva.54uf.750a@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Tesla Coil Firehazards (Exploding paint cans) (fwd)
>
> my power supply is the minimax3 nst from information unlimited with a 5
> stage multiplier.
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> On 8/13/07, Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:45:43 -0700
>> From: huil888 <huil888@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: Tesla Coil Firehazards (Exploding paint cans) (fwd)
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 6:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: Tesla Coil Firehazards (Exploding paint cans) (fwd)
>>
>> Nathan -
>>
>> A number of list members are trying to get a better understanding of your
>> claims as to the accidents you and your friend have experienced with your
>> Tesla coils. Well documented "accident reports" always provide useful
>> information for helping other experimenters avoid injury or property
>> damage.
>> .
>> When someone asked for photos of you coil, you stated that you "no longer
>> have it" (Aug 11). In your most recent post (Aug 12) you imply that you
>> are
>> still running "experiments" with it. Please clarify, do you actually have
>> a
>> Tesla coil, and if so could you provide some photos of  the overall coil
>> and
>> the major parts so we could better understand how your coil is built, and
>> what components you have used? If you don't have access to a digital
>> camera,
>> I can send you a disposable film camera and you can mail it back to me
>> after
>> you've taken the photos (I'll cover return postage costs and film
>> development costs).
>>
>> You stated that your 125VA power supply is a 15KV, 5ma (???) unit from
>> Information Unlimited (Aug 11). Is this a misprint? Information Unlimited
>> does not offer a power supply with these ratings. Was this a conventional
>> ferromagnetic transformer (NST, etc), a commercial electronic gaseous 
>> tube
>> power supply (high frequency AC), a flyback-transformer based supply, or
>> ??
>> Please supply specific details.
>>
>> Also, you state that your coil, when operating, is "exceedingly loud", so
>> loud as to cause a disruption in your neighborhood if run outdoors.
>> Something does not add up because a 125VA coil would be absolutely
>> miniscule
>> as far as Tesla coil power levels go, a tiny desktop unit. What was the
>> source of the noise?
>>
>> So, to help us better understand the phenomena your coil produces, can 
>> you
>> provide a detailed, concise description of your coil's construction and
>> component specifications? Primary and secondary dimensions, wire gage
>> used,
>> turns count, and primary tap point would be helpful. Also, the dielectric
>> type and capacitance value of your tank capacitor, the dimensions and
>> physical shape of your topload, and the type of spark gap (including 
>> total
>> gap width) would be very useful in evaluating your coil's operating
>> characteristics. The resonant frequency of the system would also be of
>> interest.
>>
>> You have stated that the primary, secondary, and topload are located
>> "several feet" from the rest of the coil components (can you specify
>> exactly
>> how far this was?). This means that the tank capacitor and spark gap were
>> located remotely from the primary. How did you deal with the inductance 
>> of
>> this interconnecting wiring, which must have been as large as or greater
>> than the inductance of the primary coil itself?
>>
>> Finally, we're still confused by the input power level (125AV) vs the
>> claimed output performance (26 inch arcs). Is there a typographic error
>> with
>> either of these values?  Did your coil incorporate any special design
>> features that allowed it to obtain such spectacular performance from such
>> a
>> tiny input power?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Scott Hanson
>>
>>
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>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:04:28 -0700
>> > From: Nathan Stokely <50kva.54uf.750a@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Subject: Re: Tesla Coil Firehazards (Exploding paint cans) (fwd)
>> >
>> > To answer your question, I run my coil for long periods of time in the
>> > garage to test the effects of the various fields it generates on
>> > electronic
>> > devices (cell phones, palm pilots) I cannot operate it outside because
>> it
>> > is
>> > exceedingly loud and my neighbourhood has a policy against very loud
>> > noises.
>> >
>> (snip)
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