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RE: [TCML] Sec design trade-offs and considerations



Hi Chris,

I did not know quite how you were using this but you have since clarified how it is being used.

All capacitors have some self inductance and it will form a resonant circuit with its own capacitance.  This is the self resonant frequency of the component and can be measured.

Cheers,

Paul

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From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Swinson
Sent: 27 November 2007 12:58
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Subject: Re: [TCML] Sec design trade-offs and considerations

Hi Paul,

Not sure what you are getting at with self res freq ? I don't know what it
is and doubt I would be able to measure it. The caps are supposed to have
zero L&R though think that's a bit of a lie in the datasheet as they must
have *some*.

They are all flat plate caps, over 200 of them in parallel. Any problems
there would probably be self inflicted with all the wiring, though they are
fixed between 2 large sheets of copper sheet and all kept as physically
close as possible. I can send you some images off list if needs be.

Chris




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From: "Paul Benham" <PaulB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: [TCML] Sec design trade-offs and considerations


Hi Chris,

Have you measured your capacitors self resonant frequency?

Cheers,

Paul

Paul Benham
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-----Original Message-----
From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Chris Swinson
Sent: 24 November 2007 16:01
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Subject: Re: [TCML] Sec design trade-offs and considerations

John ,


>
> Chris,
>
> It sounds to me that you're planning to use the SCR to replace the  spark
> gap.  The tank will ring down while the SCR is turned *on*.   The SCR will
> extinguish when the energy rings down sufficiently.  If this is  what you
> plan, it's not a new idea.  I've used SCR's in this way in Tesla  coils,
> Lou B. has done it, Malcolm W. has done that and probably others  too.
> Terry's SISG coils use the same concept except he used an IGBT  which
> is kept on during the transfer time.  The overall concept being that  the
> solid state
> device is not switched at the RF frequency, but rather at the  break-rate
> frequency.
>
> John
>

True the SCR idea is not a new idea. You are correct in what you say. Though
whay should be a new idea is to use 2mhz high Q system and a 1,000uF tank
cap all at low voltage... If this has already been done before then I would
like to review the specs and data, would save me weeks of time in
development! I started this project about 8 months ago now :-(

Chris




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