Re: [TCML] Smoke Detector Issues

[Gary Lau <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx>]

> I thought you just said ions don't pass through matter- huhumph!

I said that and it stands.   Your assertion that a TC might generate
ions that can pass through walls to trigger smoke detectors in a
neighbors' apartment is wrong.   Ions are simply charged particles of
*mass* - atoms or molecules.  Mass cannot be made to pass through
matter simply by charging/ionizing it.  My point to wrapping the
detector in the plastic bag was to exclude the possibility of
ozone/NOx gasses from affecting the detector - one of the proposed
mechanisms that might trigger a detector suggested earlier in this
thread.

> electrical engineering is physics for slow kids.

You said that and it speaks volumes about yourself.

Gary Lau
MA, USA

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:49 AM, nickobert testein
<nickobert.testein@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Gary Lau <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I just performed a limited experiment.  Unfortunately I only had two types
>> of units available to me.
>>
>> I did manage to trip a battery powered CO detector if I put it ~18" from the
>> 10" discharge arc.  Wrapping in in a plastic bag made no difference.
>
> I thought you just said ions don't pass through matter- huhumph!
> electrical engineering is physics for slow kids.
>
>   But
>> moving it much more than 18" fixed the problem.  I think it was just a case
>> of very close proximity to HV mayhem.
>>
>> My house has hard-wired, battery-backed-up detectors.  But unfortunately
>> these are photo-electric units, not ionization.  I unplugged one unit and
>> put it in the same place, 18" below the 10" arc, but it was unaffected.  I
>> did not try to see it it would trigger if it was connected to its AC source.
>> I commonly run the same coil about 10 feet away from the same plugged-in
>> detector with no problems.
>>
>> I need to find an ionization-based detector.
>>
>> Regards, Gary Lau
>> MA, USA
>>
>>> From: John Paul Gripp <pupman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [TCML] Smoke Detector Issues
>>> To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Saturday, January 28, 2012, 11:47 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I have been having a problem with my smoke detectors going off every time
>> I
>>> run my SGTC or VTTC.  I am assuming it is EMI/RFI that is causing it.  It
>>> would not be so bad, except that I live in a townhome and it tends to set
>>> the smoke detectors off at my neighbors place as well.  Has anyone ever
>>> dealt with this before?  Anyone have any clue what I could do to prevent
>> it?
>>> I wouldn't want to have to chose between moving and coiling!
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help you can provide!
>>>
>>> JP
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