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Re: [TCML] DC Coil progress and MOT configuration



Hi Dave and all,

Thanks for the suggestions, but just a little clarification, please.

First, re: the current limiter, I did have the secondary shorted, but I 
didn't realize I should short the filament winding also. Which would be more 
effective, shorting the winding or removing it if possible? (Looking at it, 
it's probably going to be simpler to short it, anyway)
Next the issue of the other 2 mots. I did phase them, so that part's taken 
care of. However, if I set them up as you say, wouldn't I just be doubling 
the current output while the voltage remains the same?
We don't have to get into the DC resonant charging issue now, but I may have 
some questions about that another time.

Thanks again for your help,

Neal.

-----Original Message----- 
From: David Speck
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:58 PM
To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
Subject: Re: [TCML] DC Coil progress and MOT configuration

Neal,

Best approach would be to connect the two core ends of the series MOTs
together, and take the high voltage off the two opposite HV terminals.
That puts the least voltage stress on the secondary:core interface.

You do have to phase the two series MOTs so their outputs are additive,
or else you will get no output.

For the transformer you are using as a current limiter, you have to
short the HV winding (and optionally the filament winding, if still
present), or else you will get relatively little current passing through it.

If you are just using the setup to draw arcs, then the current limiter
is a good idea.  If you are using it to charge a resonant charging DC
TC, then you would not want the current limiter transformer in the circuit.

Dave


On 11/27/2013 5:26 PM, Neal Namowicz wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm usually just a "lurker" here, trying to pick up some tips here and 
> there, but all this talk about mots has piqued my interest. So, if I may, 
> just a couple comments and questions...
>
> First, can anyone recommend a site where I could see some schematics for 
> putting mots in series? I'm more of a visual learner, so with the 
> schematics I could pick up on easier than explanations.
> Here's what I've tried in the past, but the output didn't really seem to 
> double as hoped. Using 3 mots at 110 vac, the first I used as a current 
> limiter, while the next 2 are in series with the output of the first 
> connected to the core of the second. I don't have a way of metering the 
> output, but based upon the arc I was drawing, it didn't seem to be any 
> improvement. BTW, current is limited to about 15 amps. Yeah, I know, like 
> Tim the Tool Man would say, "More power!", but what kind of results can I 
> hope to expect with 110v limited at 15 amps? I could probably bump that up 
> to close to 20 amps, but that's about it.
> Well, thanks in advance for your help and suggestions,
>
> Neal.

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