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Thanks for the info guys , I really appreciate it,  ill let everyone know
how I make out.
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>    1. Re: Pole pig coil. (Binny)
>    2. Re: Pole pig coil. (David Rieben)
>    3. If I parallel my secondary coil, do I need something between
>       my first and second coil? (Caleb Thompson)
>    4. Re: Geek Group HV Fire (David Thomson)
>    5. Re: Pole pig coil. (david baehr)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:07:12 -0500
> From: "Binny" <binny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: Re: [TCML] Pole pig coil.
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> Hi Caleb,
>                Not to tell you what to do or not to ,whenever I see a post
> like yours I feel a strange urge to speak up as a survivor of a well placed
> 20,000 volt shock at 250 plus ma ,Well let's just say be very careful
> please. I do not like 1 eared piggies because a single bushing makes it
> just
> that much easier to get yourself the circuit, If you somehow manage to
> survive you will never be the same and most likely  will  regret the day
> you
> considered messing with it. 'nuff said.  Other than that  I don't see why
> your plan wouldn't work with the welder in series and the low sides shorted
> to your preferred current draw. I would like to see you use an equipment
> ground on the welder case. As the 220 you are feeding the pig with is hot
> with respect to groung one can surmise so will be the pig's case in
> relationship with the ground. So I think you will end up either insulating
> the pig case  or isolating the other side from the case. There are much
> more
> knowledgeable folks on the TCML than I but I thought I'd help get the
> conversation rolling . Good luck with your coil definitely not a beginner
> project. And please let us know all about it when your done.   Cheers
> Binny
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Caleb Thompson
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:48 AM
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> Subject: [TCML] Pole pig coil.
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> Hello my name is Caleb, I have a pole pig with only an H1 bushing, the
> other
> end of the coil is grounded, can I make this work? Also I want to limit the
> current with an arc welder but only have one, if I don't hook the center
> tap
> up ( the neutral) and just strait 240 will this work?
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> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:49:25 -0600
> From: David Rieben <drieben@xxxxxxx>
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> Subject: Re: [TCML] Pole pig coil.
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> Hi Caleb,
>
> Although a single-bushing pig is less desirable for coil firing than a
> double-bushing unit, it will still definitely work. The main reason for
> undesirability of use for single-bushing units is the difficulty of
> isolation of RF ground from mains ground. One could possibly open up the
> transformer and remove the ground tap from tank case and reconnect it to
> the center low voltage bushing (assuming the external ground strap from
> this terminal to the tank case ground has been removed as well), thus using
> the center LV bushing as the HV return. Many respected list members will
> tell you that you should not tie lower RF ground of the secondary coil
> (Tesla coil itself) with the inner primary coil, but this method does
> indeed work well for me. As a matter of fact, my coil develops a lot of
> annoying internal flashovers in my control panel circuitry if I do NOT
> interconnect my Tesla primary and secondary coils to a common RF ground.
> That's just my personal experience and YMMV.
>
> David
>
> Caleb Thompson <calebriant777@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >Hello my name is Caleb, I have a pole pig with only an H1 bushing, the
> other
> >end of the coil is grounded, can I make this work? Also I want to limit
> the
> >current with an arc welder but only have one, if I don't hook the center
> tap
> >up ( the neutral) and just strait 240 will this work?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:51:47 -0500
> From: Caleb Thompson <calebriant777@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TCML] If I parallel my secondary coil, do I need something
>         between my first and second coil?
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> I am working on my third tesla coil and have had great success with the
> first two, but this one I am using a 25kva 14.4kv  pole pig and i read I
> should parallel the secondary coil.  I need some advice.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:37:03 -0600
> From: David Thomson <tcbuilder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Geek Group HV Fire
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> Hey Geek Group - Here's a must-do experiment for you...
>
> http://gizmodo.com/scientists-observe-ball-lightning-in-nature-for-the-fir-1504306477
>
> Ball lightning has been observed in nature and the spectrometer showed
> there was silicon, iron, and calcium present. Most ink toners have powdered
> iron; and Cabosil is powdered silica. I can think of half a dozen salts as
> a source of calcium; who knows if it has to be pure?
>
> Toss a handful of the dust mixture (not by hand of course) into a high
> current discharge and it might make ball lightning. Perhaps a high voltage
> discharge would work, too, but I would place my bet on high current. I have
> the powders, but it has been a long time since I had the coils running.
> After reading about what ball lightning can do, I'm not sure it is
> something I want to try indoors, anyway. But since you have a fire
> department that knows where you live now, maybe you guys could give it a
> try? :-)
>
> Dave Thomson
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Steffan Heydon <steffan.heydon@xxxxxxxxx
> >wrote:
>
> > HI Chris,
> >
> > I just heard from the Pupman list serve that you guys had a fire at your
> > HV lab.  I truly hope it was not totally destroyed. Did your big Tesla
> coil
> > survive? The information the Geek Group has available on youtube was
> highly
> > instrumental in helping me to build my first and so far only tesla coil.
> My
> > Tesla coil page is located at the following URL
> > http://www.twotowers.com/tesla/tessie_1_tesla_coil.html and outlines the
> > materials and the procedures I used to build my coil. I have several
> links
> > pointing to your site. I recently purchased a synchronous rotary spark
> gap,
> > two 15KV 60mA NST?s from Ed Sonderman who has been a Pupman.com member
> for
> > some time. The spark gap and the transformers are still residing in WA
> > State with friends, who will hopefully soon be delivering the goods to my
> > home in central California. My TC has been in limbo for a few months now.
> >
> > Thanks again for all of the information the Geek Group has made available
> > through YouTube!
> >
> > Peace,
> > Steffan Heydon
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 07:50:43 -0700
> From: david baehr <dfb25@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Pole pig coil.
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> I ran a single bushing on a small coil 4" dia.   It is a 'mini pig '  1.5
> kva/14400  .  Yes ,I also grounded  the inside pri turn and secondary
> along with the case of the little pig to its own ground rod outside the
> shop  and worked well for me.
>
>     Yes, I was a little fearful at first, but just connect the case to its
> own ground , not house ground , and should be fine
>
>      Be safe , DaveB
>
> > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:49:25 -0600
> > From: drieben@xxxxxxx
> > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Pole pig coil.
> >
> > Hi Caleb,
> >
> > Although a single-bushing pig is less desirable for coil firing than a
> double-bushing unit, it will still definitely work. The main reason for
> undesirability of use for single-bushing units is the difficulty of
> isolation of RF ground from mains ground. One could possibly open up the
> transformer and remove the ground tap from tank case and reconnect it to
> the center low voltage bushing (assuming the external ground strap from
> this terminal to the tank case ground has been removed as well), thus using
> the center LV bushing as the HV return. Many respected list members will
> tell you that you should not tie lower RF ground of the secondary coil
> (Tesla coil itself) with the inner primary coil, but this method does
> indeed work well for me. As a matter of fact, my coil develops a lot of
> annoying internal flashovers in my control panel circuitry if I do NOT
> interconnect my Tesla primary and secondary coils to a common RF ground.
> That's just my personal experience and YMMV.
> >
> > David
> >
>
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