From: Edward V. Phillips[SMTP:ed@alumni.caltech.edu] Sent: Friday, December 05, 1997 1:20 PM To: tesla@pupman.com Subject: Re: Weird ideas " Actually, IMHO there *really* is no such thing as efficiency in a machine that draws power yet does no actual work or provides no tangible benefits. It really is work/fun input, fun output. Mark Graalman" Agree totally! Someone who asks "whaddaya wanna do that for?" just doesn't understand...................... Ed