[TCML] Quench time
Barton B. Anderson
bartb at classictesla.com
Mon Nov 26 19:33:11 MST 2007
Rake Chris over the coals? I don't think anyone thought that and I know
I didn't. As far as I was concerned, you were simply stating high
frequency impedance losses (ohmic, dielectric, etc..) which increase
with higher frequency and certainly increase losses in the cap, primary,
secondary, wiring, etc..
All I'm saying is I agree, at least in my opinion. I am also saying
those losses are possibly acceptable.
On your gap analogy, it kind of confused me, but I think your just
trying to get across how impedances affect the ability of energy to be
put to work and how higher frequency increases impedances and reduces
The reason slow reactions equate to higher efficiency is due to the
materials and mediums with which the reactions are processed (at least
my understanding). I was considering those losses when high frequency
came into the picture, but what I didn't see was the how the energy
transfer between the two coils was reduced in time with frequency. I
then wondered about the coils eddy currents, high frequency impedances
with conductor area and material, etc.. and realized those particular
losses will be negligible due to the conductor length and size. A side
benefit is the extreme high Q and ring up between gap conduction times.
It's an interesting approach and one I've never seen looked at.
> I am not out to rake Chris over the coals, or anything like that. In
> fact I was not really thinking about his coil at all with my last
> post. Mostly I am looking at the large number of posts on this topic
> where the accounting of energy needs a bit more clarity of thought.
> As for conduction loss at the spark gaps, in wires, and between tank
> capacitor plates. One can make a general remark regarding
> thermodynamic efficiency. As we slow down the flow of energy across
> dielectrics and imperfect conductors we will find that our entropic
> losses decrease This may sound trivial, but it is not. In theory if a
> spark gap could take forever to act, it would have no heat loss. Of
> course it is also true that a spark gap that took forever to act would
> process very little power. (the catch- 22)
> As a general trend, slow reactions equate to higher efficiency.
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