[TCML] X-ray cable best practices for feeder cable
DC Cox
resonance at wildblue.net
Tue Jan 6 12:07:18 MST 2009
Resonance can be quite wonderful, or, as Phil explains in his examples, very
destructive.
Resonance in your HV feeder cable is not something you want, so I avoid
using any feeder cable that is coaxial in nature, ie, has a ground
shield around it. X-ray cables were designed strictly for DC power
transmission and not for transferring AC power.
Been there, done that ----- and it cost me a pole xmfr!
Dr. Resonance
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:25 PM, <FIFTYGUY at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 1/5/09 10:37:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> sparktron01 at comcast.net writes:
>
> >I am now in the world of "Power Engineering", and I absolutely
> >concur with DC; I've seen evidence of it in Medium Voltage
> >(>600V, <15kV) systems.
>
>
>
> Dave, how about repeating your story of the direct current power cable
> with
> a pinhole burned through the insulation every foot? :)
>
> >One of our companies clients had a bad substation ground at
> >2.4kV L-L to a 1000 HP motor. Interesting to see a 45 deg
> >"crucifix" burned around a bonding bushing on a 600A
> >feeder conduit entering the MV MCC. MCC/Motor Ground
> >missing to substation ground, EXCEPT for MV cable shields
> >(not there from original installation, not our companies
> >installation); length of "burn/arc" flashing at least 3" long.
> >So this situation is EXACTLY like using a shielded X-Ray
> >cable in Tesla service.
>
>
>
> Switching (and other transients) can excite resonances in shielded cables
> and other stray capacitances which of course can cause the damage you
> describe.
> Worse is the problem of these resonances being excited by harmonics from
> non-linear loads.
>
> >On a delta system (no ground) with a "capacitive" single phase
> >arcing fault to ground, transient over voltages can exceed
> >8X V applied. If you doubt, check the IEEE "Buff" Technical
> >reference for details. I trust we all understand the implications
>
>
>
>
> >of applying ~1kVAC to a 120VAC branch circuit....
>
>
> That's why you stick arrestors and transient devices all over the place
> BTW, Dave, do you still have all those MOV's?
>
> >Proper grounding is important in house wiring, but MUST
> >be installed correctly at MV; a fire, catastrophic equipment
> >damage (even collateral to unrelated systems), or electrocution
> >will result if improperly installed.
> >
> >Imagine what would happen if a plant technician
> >had his bare hand on 1000HP motor while running, and a single
> >phase (or capacitive gradient) current occurred. At a minimum
> >a severe shock, or more likely death would have occurred.
> >I have made it a personal rule to never touch high horsepower
> >medium voltage motors while running for this reason...
>
>
>
> The root cause is the bad grounding. A 1/20 horsepower motor at 60V, or
> even
> less, can kill you just as dead.
> The worrisome part is the high-resistance grounding utilized in many
> medium voltage systems, or the intentional lack of grounding in many
> systems
> where downtime is more costly than safety. Then monitoring devices are
> supposed
> to prevent disasters. But I wonder if facilities with ungrounded systems
> change their procedures when they know they have a ground fault ("Don't
> touch
> anything until we can shut down next Saturday!"). Bad Things have happened
> when
> one ground fault a while later precipitates a second fault, and then a
> line-line fault occurs...
> Or in an electrolytic cell room, where grounding is also intentionally
> avoided to prevent accidents. Now *there's* a low-impedance source for
> you!
>
> -Phil LaBudde
>
> Center for the Advanced Study of Ballistic Improbabilities
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