[TCML] Capacitor encapsulent
bartb
bartb at classictesla.com
Mon May 25 09:35:56 MDT 2009
220 kV/cm for HDPE.
Bart
John Kirby wrote:
> Gary,
>
> I think I have seen a table like this before, and the dielectric strength was also missing for HDPE. Do you (or anyone) know what it is?
>
> Regards,
> John K.
>
> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Lau, Gary <Gary.Lau at hp.com> wrote:
>
>
>> From: Lau, Gary <Gary.Lau at hp.com>
>> Subject: RE: [TCML] Capacitor encapsulent
>> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla at pupman.com>
>> Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 9:25 PM
>> Hi James,
>>
>> I've not been able to locate the dissipation factor for
>> common types of bottle and pane glass, but realize that all
>> plastics are not suitable. Here's a list of common
>> plastics with their dielectric constants and dissipation
>> factors. Plexiglas is PMMA, and its dissipation factor
>> is rather poor relative to PE and PP.
>>
>> polymer
>> dielectric
>> dielectric dissipation
>>
>> constant strength
>> factor
>>
>> 50Hz / 1Mhz (Kv/cm)
>> 50Hz / 1Mhz (x10^-3)
>> -------- -----------
>> -----------
>> -----------
>> LDPE 2.29 /
>> 2.28 370
>> .15 / .08
>> HDPE 2.35 /
>> 2.34 --
>> .24 / .20
>> PP 2.27 /
>> 2.25 240
>> .40 / .50
>> PVC-plasticized 4-8 / 4-5
>> 270
>> 80 / 120
>> PS
>> 2.5 / 2.5 200-300
>> .1-.4/.05-.4
>> ABS
>> 2.4-5/2.4-3.8 ~400
>> 3-8 / 2-15
>> PMMA
>> 3.3-3.9/2.2-3.2 140
>> 40-60/4-40
>> POM 3.7
>> / 3.7 400
>> 5 / 5
>> PTFE 2.1 /
>> 2.1 480
>> .2 / .2
>> PCTFE
>> 2.3-2.8/2.3-2.5 550
>> 1 / 20
>> PA-6 3.8 /
>> 3.4 400
>> 10 / 30
>> PA-66 8 /
>> 4 600
>> 140 / 80
>> PC 3.0 /
>> 2.9 380
>> .7 / 10
>> PET 4.0
>> / 4.0 420
>> 2 / 20
>> PI 3.5 /
>> 3.4 560
>> 2 / 5
>> PUR-linear 5.8 / 4.0
>> >300
>> 120 / 70
>> PUR-thermoset 3.6 / 3.4
>> 240
>> 50 / 50
>> PUR-thermoplas 6.6 / 5.6
>> 300
>> 30 / 60
>> CAB 3.7
>> / 3.5 400
>> 6 / 21
>> Silicone 3.6
>> 200
>> 5-13 / 7
>>
>> Regards, Gary Lau
>> MA, USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tesla-bounces at pupman.com
>>>
>> [mailto:tesla-bounces at pupman.com]
>> On
>>
>>> Behalf Of James
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 4:28 PM
>>> To: 'Tesla Coil Mailing List'
>>> Subject: RE: [TCML] Capacitor encapsulent
>>>
>>> Hi Ray, The problem with window glass is the iron in
>>>
>> it. The dielectric
>>
>>> factor of window glass is POOR. Used as a Tesla coil
>>>
>> capacitor, it will
>>
>>> crack and short your cap out. Use some form of
>>>
>> plastic. Polystyrene,
>>
>>> polypropylene, Plexiglas, etc will be much better.
>>>
>> Now, you might wonder
>>
>>> how I know this. It's a secret. James
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tesla-bounces at pupman.com
>>>
>> [mailto:tesla-bounces at pupman.com]
>> On
>>
>>> Behalf Of Raymond Magdziarz
>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:38 PM
>>> To: tesla at pupman.com
>>> Subject: [TCML] Capacitor encapsulent
>>>
>>> I'm building my capacitor using window glass and brass
>>>
>> sheets. I plan on
>>
>>> using paraffin instead of transformer oil. I would
>>>
>> draw a vacuum on the
>>
>>> container while the paraffin is liquid to get the
>>>
>> bubbles out and then
>>
>>> let
>>> it solidify. Will this work, or what problems will I
>>>
>> have.
>>
>>> Ray M.
>>>
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