Re: Lifter (fwd)

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Original poster: Steven Roys <sroys@xxxxxxxxxx>



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Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 22:09:29 -0700
From: Scott Hanson <huil888@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: High Voltage list <hvlist@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Lifter (fwd)

DC -

Please clarify the configuration of your lifter so there can be no 
misunderstanding:

1. The lifter's sole source of power is a chemical battery ("power pack") 
supplying DC current to the HV power supply;
2. The battery is mounted on or in the lifter structure, and remains in 
place during the lifter's flight;
3. During flight, the lifter is not tethered to the ground, nor any other 
surface or object; and no other power source is used to provide additional 
lift (helium balloon, compressed air jet, etc)
4. The lifter is able to generate sufficient thrust with its on-board power 
supply to raise the entire lifter assembly, with power supply, battery, etc, 
off the "ground" and maintain flight or hover for at least 5 seconds.

Have I stated the description of the hardware and the flight conditions 
correctly?

Please forgive me if I sound sceptical, but some form of verification 
(photos, technical description, specific performance criteria, etc) would 
help this reader accept these claims as factual.

I seem to remember previous claims of a "Tesla rifle" directed energy device 
and a "Kinetic Resonance Energy Weapon" that (apparently) were never backed 
up with credible evidence and quickly faded into oblivion (Tesla Coil 
Mailing List, August 14, 2004).

Regards,
Scott Hanson
(Septical in So Cal)

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Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: Lifter (fwd)


> Original poster: Steven Roys <sroys@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:27:17 -0600
> From: Dr. Resonance <resonance@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: High Voltage list <hvlist@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Lifter (fwd)
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> Wrong.
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> Resonance Research Corp. has a 60 kV Electrothrust lifter that is powered 
> by
> a power pack (battery) that lifts itself and additional weight.  It is
> totally self-contained --- not tethered to the ground.  At present we are
> investigating marketing options for this device --- possible military
> applications.  We are also investigating the best "steering mechanisms" 
> for
> our new flyer.
>
> Electrostatic fields do not require high current only high voltage so a
> heavy transformer is not required.  Our transformer units weigh less than 
> 8
> oz.
>
> Dr. Resonance
>
>>
>> No one to date has made a lifter that is self contained in the public
>> sector.
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>>
>> Key to reducing the weight is the elimination of the transformer and
>> almost all magnetics in general. Simply put, magnets are heavy, too 
>> heavy.
>> Older systems may have used transformers (deSeversky, Brown Biefeld, 
>> etc).
>> However, the power source was on the ground.
>>
>> Another key is getting the efficiency up. LiPo batteries reduce the 
>> weight
>> and increase the efficiency for a power source. However, processing the
>> power into the high voltage needed requires a very lightweight diode and
>> cap network. The diodes are there. Even with high tech caps (ultravolt
>> etc), the Cockroft-walton multiplier cannot meet the performance 
>> criteria.
>>
>> Piezoelectrics are still in their infancy. This alternative may be viable
>> in the coming year or two, but will be outdistanced by higher 
>> efficiencies
>> and lower weight.
>>
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