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Re: Paper Capacitors



> Date:          Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:25:00 -0600
> From:          Tesla List <tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com>
> To:            Tesla-list-subscribers-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com
> Subject:       Re: Paper Capacitors
> Reply-to:      tesla-at-pupman-dot-com

> > Subject: Re: Paper Capacitors
> > Subject: Re: Salt water caps, was earth resonance
> 
> >From gowin-at-epic-1.nwscc.sea06.navy.milThu Sep  5 21:51:56 1996
> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 08:46:05 -0500
> From: Dan Gowin <gowin-at-epic-1.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil>
> To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> Subject: Re: Paper Capacitors
> 
> Tesla List wrote:
> > 
> > >From i541771-at-imsday-dot-comWed Sep  4 22:29:18 1996
> > Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:33:24 +0000
> > From: Chris Singletary <i541771-at-imsday-dot-com>
> > Reply to: single-at-imsday-dot-com
> > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > Subject: Re: Paper Capacitors
> > 
> > In defence of the bottles used by Tesla, they were perfect for adding
> > and subtracting capacitance to "fine tune" his coil and to study the
> > difference capacitance / inductance had on his circuits. Show me an
> > easier way to add and subtract capacitance in minor increments. It
> > was and is cheaper to make than  "store" bought caps and less time
> > consuming than making other types. He did however also use plate glass
> > capacitors. Pat No. 567,818 Fig. 2 with an electrolyte solution as
> > well. Also.. chalk up one for doing it the historical way. One note:
> > You need to pick a good champaine bottle that is free of air bubbles.
> > 
> > Chris Singletary
> > Believe that you CAN accomplish the impossible and you shall.
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > >From i541771-at-imsday-dot-comWed Sep  4 22:30:02 1996
> > Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:45:31 +0000
> > From: Chris Singletary <i541771-at-imsday-dot-com>
> > Reply to: single-at-imsday-dot-com
> > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > Subject: Re: Salt water caps, was earth resonance
> > 
> > I can't believe you guys neglect to add the fact that NOTHING is as
> > good for making the minor increments he wanted to research as
> > "bottle" caps! Add a little more salt water and the bottle sinks
> > alittle more and WALAH a little more capacitance! Also.. because the
> > salt water was a liquid it is more forgiving that
> > milar/polyeurathane/etc. caps today. I mean come on.. he was
> > experimenting. If he blew a hole in a anything other THAN a liquid
> > filled cap then both money and effort just got wasted. Alot of
> > guys here are new to the field and bottle caps are cheap and so what
> > if one or two has a dielectric breakdown?
> > 
> > Chris Singletary
> > member - TCBA
> > Believe that you CAN accomplish the impossible and you shall.
> 
> Chris I agree,
> 	Most of the capacitor banks I use today are the commercial
> types. But, I still use a single bottle salt water 500 pF cap in my 
> lab. I've had this thing since college, and I still use it today in
> safeguarding my power supplies. Its still the lowest cost, energy 
> sponge I can find. And as far as safety is concerned, I've placed mine
> in a large plastic cup. Even if the cap. blows, glass-saltwater-vinyl
> tape and all, are not going to harm anyone.
> 
> 	For anyone wanting a filter cap for there neon transformer. A
> salt water cap is a good RF absorber that can be made easily, while
> maintaining good results.
> 
> 	I do have one question though that I would like to impose on the
> community. I've read some previous E-Mail listings, where the sender
> makes a reference to his salt water caps glowing. Unless the reference
> is to corona outside the caps. Is there a phenomena that I've never
> observed in a salt water cap, that I should be aware of?
> 
> D. Gowin
I also have not seen this phenomenon on any that I have used in the 
past. I would propose that either it is a corona discharge or a contaminant 
in the water.

C. Singletary 
Believe that you CAN accomplish the impossible and you shall.