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Alleged 40 foot coil - prove it!



Robert W. Stephens wrote:
> 
> > Date:          Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:40:05 -0700 (MST)
> > To:            tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > Subject:       Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> > From:          Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> 
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:55:14 -0700
> > From: "DR.RESONANCE" <DR.RESONANCE-at-next-wave-dot-net>
> > To: Tesla List <mod1-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > Subject: Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> >
> > TO: Tesla List
> >
> > Yes, the fabled coil does exist.  It was constructed in 1984 and sold to a
> > very reclusive and very rich person in Australia.  He runs it every year
> > for one day for a large private party he throws for all his super rich
> > friends in the freighter shipping industry.  Most arrive in private jets
> > and many from Europe.
> >
> > The written terms of the sale included the fact the location of this
> > machine and the owner must remain secret.  I imagine anyone with that much
> > money could certainly afford to send a group of hungry lawyers after anyone
> > who violated terms of the contract.
> >
> > We were flown down there to check it and retune it in 1991 and it is still
> > working great.  The original was photographed in 8 mm film format back in
> > 1984 but due to the terms of the contract it cannot be publicly shown as
> > someone would recognize the terrain and figure out where it was.
> >
> > What's the big fuss for -- there is nothing magic or secret about getting a
> > spark length twice the length of the secondary coil.  Many coil builders
> > have done it, ie, Ed Wingate and Bill Wysock to name a few.
> >
> > As to who has the biggest 6 shooter -- who cares?  Most professional coil
> > builders are way beyond trying to see who can make the biggest.  The bigger
> > the coil the more expensive it is to operate and store it when it is not
> > running.  As for dropped videos and leaflets all over -- why bother?  It is
> > time and money poorly spent only to boost ones ego.
> >
> > Our purpose in occassionally checking into Chip's fine net group is to help
> > and assist anyone getting into Tesla and Tesla coils.  Our purpose here is
> > not to try to prove or disprove anyone's ideas or theories, and certainly
> > not to worry about who can build the biggest coil -- after all who really
> > cares?  and if they do, they're  wasting a lot of time and money on some
> > ego trip.
> >
> > Want the biggest 6 shooter in the world to brag about and put it on some
> > catalog cover -- fine.  Build it, run it a few times, then pay for the
> > storage and discover why you should really have taken that course in
> > Business 101.
> >
> > End of conversation -- we will not post any more comments or notes on this
> > particular subject -- PERIOD!!
> >
> > DR.RESONANCE
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Tesla List <mod1-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > > Subject: Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> > > Date: Saturday,March 01,1997 2:10 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 08:23:39 -0500 (EST)
> > > From: richard hull <rhull-at-richmond.infi-dot-net>
> > > To: Tesla List <mod1-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > > Subject: Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> > >
> > > At 09:12 PM 2/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > >Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:33:16 -0800
> > > >From: Greg Leyh <lod-at-pacbell-dot-net>
> > > >To: Tesla List <mod1-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > > >Subject: Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> > > >
> > > >Tesla List wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > >> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:32:09 -0700
> > > >> From: "DR.RESONANCE" <DR.RESONANCE-at-next-wave-dot-net>
> > > >> To: Tesla List <mod1-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > > >> Subject: Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> > > >>
> > > >> To:  Phil
> > > >>
> > > >> You might contact Resonance Research Corp, E11870 Shadylane Rd.,
> > Baraboo,
> > > >> Wisconsin  53913.  They manufacture large coils with dia. up to 5 feet
> > and
> > > >> heights up to 40 ft. tall.  This is the coil spec.  Power levels
> > around 180
> > > >> kva with 70 ft. long sparks.
> > > >>
> > > >> They have an open house every fall with some fantastic sparking.
> > > >>
> > > >> DR.RESONANCE-at-next-wave-dot-net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Wow -- are there any pictures or documentation of the 40 foot, 180kVA
> > coil
> > > >in operation?
> > > >
> > > >-GL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >All,
> > >
> > > I'll stick my neck out and say this coil is much fabled and doesn't
> > exist!!
> > > The story behind this goes back a bit.
> > >
> > >  No photos, no videos, no proof.
> > >
> > > If a coil of such dimensions existed, produced the spark claimed, and I
> > made
> > > it, there would be crap plastered on every wall... free videos to the
> > > doubtful ....front page spreads..... I would air drop leaflets over every
> > > Teslathon in the land.....I would put a massive image of it running, full
> > > tilt, on the cover of my book..... It would be featured promenantly on
> > any
> > > catalog or literature I distributed..... I would make its image part of
> > my
> > > corporate logo... and I would never let anyone forget that I was "King of
> > > the coilers"!!!! (almost enough said here)
> > >
> > >  Don't worry Greg, yours is still the "fairest in the land" and produces
> > the
> > > biggest sparks I,ve seen....  And I have both photos and lotsa video tape
> > of
> > > your stuff working.  This fabled system has been earmarked and punctuated
> > > over the years by the absence of any proof beyond verbage and heresay.
> > >
> > > Richard Hull, TCBOR
> 
> To the person writing behind the title "DR. RESONANCE", who claims
> through posts to be a group since statements made are always
> "WE..this, and We...that.", and to this person who represents a company that
> builds Tesla coils for profit as a commercial enterprise called Resonance Research
> Corporation, and recognizing that it is public knowledge that the owner of this
> company is Mr. Durlin C. Cox.
> 
> I put it to you that as it is unlikely that this highly experimental coil, if it exists,
> was manufactured on this alleged reclusive rich person's property some 12,000
> miles remoted from the builder's shop, and much more likely that it, if it
> exists, would have been built on site at the shop facilities of the
> builder.  Given this it is also highly likely that the builder would have tested the
> system before shipping it half way around the globe.  It is an *absolute* that
> videotape and/or film and still photos WOULD HAVE BEEN taken during shop
> testing of the largest classical Tesla coil to be built to date, even if appropriate
> photographing equipment were rare and in its infancy.  This was the case in
> Nikola Tesla's day but not applicable now.  Nevertheless, Tesla, recognizing the
> historical importance of his own work, went to the trouble to HAVE PHOTOS
> TAKEN!  Displaying  such proof publicly of a 40 foot tall Tesla coil could
> easily have been done at the U.S. based shop without leaking the name of the
> alleged foreign customer or his secretive home location.
> 
> I will side with Richard Hull.  Until pictures or videotape or film are shown to
> outsiders as real proof, THIS GIANT TESLA COIL SIMPLY DOES NOT
> EXIST!
> 
> The technical feasibility of such a coil is not an issue to me.  I do not doubt that
> such a coil can be built, and the power numbers quoted certainly sound believable
> to me based on my own personal experience at this point, but if one were to
> build such a device, I don't care who the customer was, the creator would have
> pictures of the developmental process and qualification testing, and they would
> be using some part of these pictures, even if it was just photos of the streamers
> themselves against non-descript black sky, in advertising the clearly
> superior capabilities of their Tesla coil making company.  Period!
> 
> Since Resonance Research Corporation is in the buisness of building Tesla coils
> for a living, and has too much to gain by the release of photo proof of
> such an accomplishment,  I do not believe your story either.  I and many
> others on this list are not wide eyed school boys, we are serious
> researchers, somewhat experienced in this field who strive for proof,
> scientific and historical accuracy as naturally as we breath.
> 
> This indeed has absolutely nothing to do with who has the biggest six
> shooter, but certainly would have everything to do with the business
> prestige of the name of the successful builder, if one existed.  This
> is the kind of material at the level where legends are born.
> 
> If you did indeed build this fabled machine, you had better cough up
> some pictures immediately, or I fear that you shall look like a fool
> for your claim.  I'm calling your bluff!
> 
> After making a statement as bold as you have done on this respected forum you
> should expect a great deal of attention and public scrutiny.  You Sir, have just
> placed yourself under a magnifying glass.  If your story can be substantiated you
> will instantly  become a big star amongst your peers.  If not...well, there's
> certainly a self-activated reputation mechanism at work here.
> 
> The true Tesla coil spirit in me wants to discover that you are
> telling the truth.
> 
> Convince me,  DR. RESONANCE!
> 
> Robert W. Stephens
> Fellow "Professional" Tesla coil builder
> Lindsay Scientific Co.
> Ontario, Canada