Re: Temperature to melt NST tar and sonotube forms

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:17:13 -0700 (MST)
From: Chip Atkinson <chip-at-pupman-dot-com>
To: Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
Subject: Re: Temperature to melt NST tar

There is one problem with chipping the tar out when it's cool/cold.  The
tar shatters like glass leaving shards everywhere.  While this is not a
problem in the cold, when it warms up, there are little balls of tar
everywhere.  Be sure to do this chipping outside and in a location where
you won't track it inside. 

RE Sonotube forms and puncturing -- While I did not have an arc strike the
side of the tube, I did experience dielectric breakdown between the coils,
and had arcs inside the tube between windings.  Yes, something was
probably wrong, but this was my first coil and I was bummed that it blew
that easily.  I also had not urethaned the form beforehand though.


 Chip Atkinson 
 --- If I can't fix it, I can fix it so it can't be fixed --

On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Tesla List wrote:

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> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:58:12 -0700 (MST)
> From: "Matt P." <ch038map-at-mode.lanl.k12.nm.us>
> To: Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> Subject: Re: Temperature to melt NST tar (fwd)
> On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Tesla List wrote:
> > 
> > 
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 19:09:31 EST
> > From: Gary Lau  13-Jan-1998 1851 <lau-at-hdecad.ENET.dec-dot-com>
> > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > Subject: Re: Temperature to melt NST tar
> > 
> > >From: Christopher Stone <stone-at-etak-dot-com>
> > >Two quick questions, hopefully with easy answers:
> > >What temperature does the tar in Neon transformers melt at?  How 
> > >long should a transformer be cooked to repair the carbon tracks?
> > 
> > I can't give you a numerical answer but can share a bit relating to the
> > experience.  I cooked mine in an aluminum turkey roasting pan in a
> > covered Weber charcoal BBQ grill.  It took about 2-3 hours to melt to a
> > thick, mostly-liquid viscous state and could not possibly have been done
> > indoors in a controlled oven, due to the smell, if that's what you're
> > thinking.  I should add that the case leaked melted tar and was a pretty
> > horrible mess.  Since my goal was de-potting and re-potting in melted
> > vasoline, I can't comment on time to repair carbon tracks.
> > 
> > Gary Lau
> > Waltham, MA USA
> > 
> All-
> 	While we're on the subject of unpotting neons, I have a question.
> I have read a bit about the freezing the neon, and the chipping away the
> tar as opposed to heating it. (the "cold cook" method or something like
> that...) Wouldn't this eliminate a lot of the mess you get with cooking
> the neons? I got the impression that it was a lot easier too, and you
> wouldn't have to worry about messing up your oven...
> Still working on first coil in NM,
> Matt