Re: Re: the argon project

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Original poster: "Mike Harrison by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <mike-at-whitewing.co.uk>

..of course if you can maintain the purity of the water, conductivity
shouldn't be a problem.....


On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:20:26 -0700, you wrote:

 >Original poster: "Jolyon Vater Cox by way of Terry Fritz 
<twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <jolyon-at-vatercox.freeserve.co.uk>
 >
 >Josh,
 >Well, it is possible to light a few NE-2 mini neon bulbs in a wineglass of
 >tap water put in a microwave.
 >(due to high voltages induced on the metal electrodes by the microwaves, I
 >suspect); in my experience the conductivity of the water did nothing to stop
 >the bulbs lighting -although the low running voltage of NE-2 -less than
 >100V-may also have helped here; bigger bulbs need bigger voltages and it may
 >be more difficult to get them to strike, particularly under water. Also,
 >remember that microwave frequency is MUCH HIGHER than that of the average
 >TC.
 >
 >Good luck,
 >Jolyon.
 >
 >----- Original Message -----
 >From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:28 AM
 >Subject: the argon project
 >
 >
 > > Original poster: "J Dow by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
 ><jdowphotography-at-hotmail-dot-com>
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Hello all
 > >
 > > I've been running my coil in the MassArt metal shop/foundry and Drum (he
 > > runs the place) is getting into coils and HV. We were talking shop the
 > > other day and got on the topic or argon welding gas, ionized gas, neon
 > > signs and such like. He had the idea of putting a neon tube in a fish tank
 > > and lighting it with the HV field from my coil. I didn't think it work
 > > because of the water. Then I though of mineral oil, it would be clear like
 > > water, but you would have to get an awful lot of it. Next I thought of
 > > using this nice 4 foot by 3.75" clear acrylic tube I got out of the trash.
 > > It was part of a fish "tank". It was meant to stand up and bubble, there
 > > was a light at the bottom.
 > > The experimental idea:
 > > Stand tube with mineral oil where the secondary would go. Pump argon in
 > > from the bottom. Watch as the argon bubbles in the oil ionize. The top is
 > > caped to form a closed loop. We even found the old vacuum pump if we need
 > > to bring the internal gas pressure down. The way I see it; if there is a
 > > volume of low-pressure gas and you put it near a HV field it will ionize.
 > > It shouldn't matter the sort of container you use, Glass, plastic or oil.
 > > Anticipated problems:
 > > Because the argon won't ionize at normal pressure, will a fish tank pump,
 > > pump it at low pressure. We will see.
 > > Read you later
 > > Josh
 > >
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