Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <teslalist@qwest.net>" <BillEaver@aol.com> There is a sub-cure, get another Disease! In my case two. Ham radio has me atop mountains talking on my HT (walkie talkie) or SCUBA diving to the wreck of an old restaurant that fell into the sea in 1920 (Redondo beach pier #3) And yes I am making another Toroid out of brass strips. Denis Despins KC6TRW