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RE: Winding primary



Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-twfpowerelectronics-dot-com>

Hi Luke,

Simply think of "loss" as how "hot" it gets.  The streamers are hot and 
account for about 70% of the energy of a coil.  The gap is hot and accounts 
for the other about 30%.  The leads of the caps are pretty darn cold 
;-)))  and they account for a little more than 0% percent loss....

Cheers,

         Terry


At 09:34 PM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
>Two strings in parallel (such as what I am building) still seems there
>is little cross sectional area.  Are you saying that because the leads
>are so short they offer almost no resistance like say the ohm per 1000
>feet of wire charts would indicate?
>
>thanx
>
>Luke Galyan
>Bluu-at-cox-dot-net
>http://members.cox-dot-net/bluu
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:22 PM
>To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
>Subject: RE: Winding primary
>
>Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-twfpowerelectronics-dot-com>
>
>Hi Luke,
>
>The key is those leads are very short and normally in parallel.  The
>loss
>from the skinny leads is trivial.  They do make those caps with big
>strap
>leads, but the cost is stunning for the special order...
>
>Cheers,
>
>          Terry
>
>At 07:48 PM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
> >On the note of not needing a big honkin primary coil.....
> >I was starting on building my MMC the other day and it hit me that we
> >talk about all this high power and current in the tank circuit and use
>a
> >heavy gauge for the primary when in reality as far as wire size goes
>the
> >weak link seems to be the leads coming from the caps in the MMC.  They
> >are so small compared to what is suggested for the primary.
> >
> >
> >Luke Galyan
> >Bluu-at-cox-dot-net
> >http://members.cox-dot-net/bluu
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 5:56 PM
> >To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> >Subject: Re: Winding primary
> >
> >Original poster: "Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz" <acmq-at-compuland-dot-com.br>
> >
> >Tesla list wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Original poster: Gregory Hunter <ghunter31014-at-yahoo-dot-com>
> >
> >  >... Finally, if
> >  > the first primary looks like a nightmare, discard the
> >  > Cu tube and try again. You're only out $12 or
> >  > so--chicken feed in this cash-intensive hobby!
> >
> >And note that unless your coil is a really big thing, there is no
> >technical reason to use tubing for the coil. Any reasonably thick
> >wire is more than enough. All my primaries were made with #18
> >solid wire (Ok, a 5 kV x30 mA NST doesn't give a lot of power).
> >http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/tesla/tefpprim.jpg
> >Not a work of art, but cheap and works.
> >
> >Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz