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Re: capacitance of homemade caps
Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi Steve,
One "can" measure capacitance and inductance with just a scope.  But it is 
not at all simple.  You pulse it and watch to see how fast it discharges 
across a resistor.  I don't think it is worth trying unless you have 
someone there that knows the technique well...  Best to look around for 
someone that has a meter that just "tells" you such things...  Needs a 
signal generator and some good knowledge of impedances...  It is just too 
messy for a first time scope user...
You have mentioned 833Hz which seems way way too low...  Maybe like 
83300Hz...  MMCs are real easy since it is just printed on the side of the 
cap ;-)))  Might double check the time and voltage scales on the scope...
Don't ground your coil to the AC wall plug!!  That ground is great for 60Hz 
stuff, but terrible at say 83kHz!!!  you might fry everything on the 
circuit.  Ground the coil to a little ground rod which is like 1000X 
better!!  cold water pipe or copper drain pipes are great too.  Higher 
frequencies just don't like to travel in the normal household grounding 
that was never made for such high frequencies.
There are some folks that "flush" some bare wire down the toilet to get to 
the sewer pipes which are very well grounded...  Sort of "extreme", but 
"electrically" sound ;-))  Might not be good at the top floor of a tall 
building ;-))
Cheers,
        Terry
At 06:13 PM 4/6/2005, you wrote:
Thanks. I am indeed already getting  some MMCs, I just think it would be 
cool to have it running off  the strorag boxes. :) Seen on this website:
www.angelfire.com/weird2/customsteele/pics/
Also, I've got an o-scope with abuilt in signal generator at my school, 
but I cant get it to do anything with the box caps. I maintain, perhaps 
stupidly, that my caps have a minimum voltage requirement and the function 
generator simply can't reach that. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. :)
                                                               Steven Steele