Re: bummed

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Original poster: "Steven Steele" <sbsteele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

The box caps are indeed caps. The definition of a capacitor is this:
   an  electrical device/component that hold a charge in a dielectric 
between two plates.

Since these things do hald a charge, they are considered as capacitors.
In design though they are more lik Lyden jars.

All of this is still trivial anyway becaus I do allready have MMCs.
Plus they are fun to play with(at least for a while, then you get board again.)
LOL.

Steven Steele
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Subject: Re: bummed


> Original poster: BunnyKiller <bunikllr@xxxxxxx>
>
> Steven...
>
> I finally got around to looking at your pictures...
>
> Im gonna be real "critical"  maybe even harsh  heck maybe insultive... BUT ...
>
> reading your last post before this one about trying your caps to test them 
> out  ???   umm  what was that you had as far as caps?  2 tupperware 
> containers lined with foil?
>
> do you have any idea what caps are?  Caps are MULTIPLE  layers of 
> dielectric ( insulator) and conductive material layered in such a manner 
> that the layers are  seperated by the insultor are next to each other in 
> MULTIPLE  layers   ( like 30 - 50 layers for homemade caps)    what I saw 
> was a tupperware container with 1 layer of aluminum....    no way enuf 
> capacitance  to even work on the coil you designed....   as I sed in my 
> previous post... spend the money on a good cap set    be it a MMC or 
> something from Ebay  (  best bet a Maxwell Cap)    you can not be cheap on 
> the cap   no way around it ...   homemade caps will cost you more in the 
> long run than buying "real" commercially made cap set....
> and how do I know this???  I have made 3 styles of homemade caps and the 
> money I spent on making them was 5X more than what I spent on a set of 
> commercially made "Ebay" bought caps...
>
> I seriously suggest you should do some research on cap design before you 
> go any further in your coiling ...   really hate to see a prospective 
> coiler drop from the ever growing list but without some kind of desire to 
> take the time to learn and understand what you are dealing with,,,,,   Id 
> rather see you leave coiling due to not understanding the "system" than to 
> see you leave coiling due to a hi volt contact mishap....    sorry to be 
> so vocal     but I had to...     you are eager to accomlish a coil but not 
> disciplined enuf to understand the overall picture and dangers...
>
> take a step back   listen to what has been said to you and take heed of 
> what you are getting into    READ ALL of the Tesla Coil Ring Web Sites ( 
> and you will notice that 90% have a disclaimer about death distruction and 
> electrocution)  WE ARE NOT KIDDING about this....   even a MOT can kill you....
>
> dont be so eager to accomplish something without learninng about it
> be eager to learn about it first    applying what you have learned is more 
> rewarding than accomplishing something without the knowledge....
> anybody can break something   but it takes a person with knowledge to make 
> something....
>
> Scot D
>
>
>
> Tesla list wrote:
>
> > Original poster: "Steven Steele" <sbsteele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > I'm bummed cuz i tried my tc and id did exactly what i expected it to do, 
> > nothing. I can't find out what the resonant freq is. i don't even know 
> > that my retarted tc even has one. i aint got a clue as to the math i need 
> > if i were to go about getting my caps oriented to whatever freq i ned to 
> > put them at. basically, i'm up the creek without a paddle, and theres 
> > probbly a waterfall.
> >
> >            Steven Steele