Original poster: Davetracer@xxxxxxx
In a message dated 7/3/2005 10:14:47 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
tesla@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
Original poster: Mddeming@xxxxxxx
In a message dated 7/3/05 2:12:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tesla@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
Original poster: Adam Britt <beans45601@xxxxxxxxx>
its still not worth it.
-Adam
    "For a given value of 'it' " ?
    I just built a neon sign powered coil (12kv/60 ma). I'm low on 
spare change at the moment.
    So I wandered by WalMart and got a big metal pot. My son picked 
up some copper tubing, then bent it into continuous bottle-shaped 
segments, so the bottles going in had support, and also had 
whatever benefit possible from having the current and voltage 
"piped" right to the bottles. Then I picked up a 12-pack of Corona 
[no pun intended] beer, poured out the beer, filled with water to 
about 2" from the top, and used some thick copper wire to form 
center electrodes for the bottles. I used table salt both inside 
and outside. Finally I filled the pot with water to the same level 
as the bottles. The pot sits on thick books to keep from 
accidentally zapping into the floor.
    Results: It works fine. There has not been a punchthrough yet 
[knock on wood]. The copper tubing inside keeps the bottles from 
falling over quite nicely, and the Corona bottles are just 
wonderful with their long necks; in fact someone on the list recommended them.
    I don't see any point in using oil, laxatives, chocolate or 
concrete. (Of course those are probably for a different design of 
caps). I think that probably the cooling effect of the water helps 
keep the bottles from shattering from heat stress.
    This may have cost as much as $20, but it could have been $10.
    This coil is putting out the biggest sparks I've ever made with 
a TC, and during a tuning session the other day, tripped the fire 
alarm many feet away on the ceiling. I have two thoughts about that:
(1) "What a pain!". (I had to call and tell them it was an accidental trip).
(2) *COOL* !!
    While some of the coils from people on this list are 
constructed beautifully, my experience has been there is cost and 
time attached to that. You really can build these things on a 
shoestring. I'll probably experiment with MMC cap arrays when I 
accumulate more quarters in the spare change can.
    -- thanks,
    Dave