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Re: Streamer length vs. power delivery time...



Original poster: Liviu Vasiliu <teslina@xxxxxxxxx>

Hi
I follow the discusion but I feel that we use only one
term of the equation (the coil characteristics: F,
BPS, cycle number, etc and a simplified model of the
streamer load). Of course the power delivered/time is
important (dP/dT). But I thing we have to consider the
medium which take the streamer energy as a matched
load (something like a Z sec = Z streamer volume) or
like an anssamble of harmonic oscillators which take
this energy with a specified rate upon time.
I have some thoughts here...I dont know maibe is a BS:

http://www.geocities.com/gemaria_ro/theory.html

The energy transfer depends by the rate excitation of
the atomes in the volume unity (and possible by a
probabilistic rate of photon emissions that contribute
to the streamer formation).
So, I thing that a general information have to contain
some parameters as air pressure, T (to calculate the
medium number of charge carriers on volume unit), freq
of the field and the probabilistic rate of the
interaction. Now we have only some empirical
observation.

The english in the material is somehow weird. Sorry. I
found the equations in some plasma physics books and I
thought to adapt them to the tesla coil theory. If
seems non-sens to you, dont bother.

vasil
>
>

--- Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Original poster: Terry Fritz
> <teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> At 05:50 PM 6/17/2005, you wrote:
> > > The graph is showing commutative "streamer
> energy" not coil
> > > energy/bang.  The second to the last page lists
> your total bang energy at
> > > 15.476 joules.  At 120 BPS, that is 1857 watts.
> >(snip)
> > >
> > > I am using "streamer energy" not "bang energy"
> in the graph.  Just a matter
> > > of which data column I picked up in the graph.
> No rhyme nor reason that I
> > > did not pick total energy I guess that is what
> the program just happened to
> > > be set for...  But no problem, everything is ok.
>  I got 15.476 joules...
> > >
> >(snip)
> >
> >Ok, slightly confused now!  Maybe if you look at
> the sim file i sent
> >you, you may find that i have made some silly error
> with my streamer
> >model.  At the output of the resonator, i just have
> 6pF and 220k in
> >parallel to ground, is that the correct way to
> model it???
>
> No!  The 6pF capacitor should be in series with the
> 220k resistor, not in
> parallel with it.
>
>
> >So then i integrate the power through the 220k
> resistor alone to get my 15J.
>
> You will get about 6 joules in the 220k streamer
> resistor.  The 15 joules
> is input power.  You can integrate the power through
> Rprimary to find that.
>
>
> >How would i figure out only the "Streamer" energy
> as ScanTesla is doing?
>
> Integrate for the power in the 220k streamer
> resistor.
>
> Cheers,
>
>          Terry
>
>
>
> >Steve
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >          Terry
>
>
>



		
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