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Re: Metal traces in PVC pipe?



Original poster: "Mike" <mike.marcum@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Glad that nowadays I just use clear acrylic tube. Usually it gets scrapped if there's inpurities in it, especially if it's optical grade. Not sure if there's "electrical grade" pvc pipe other than the grey conduit, but that only goes to 3" diameter I think.

Mike
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Subject: RE: Metal traces in PVC pipe?


Original poster: "Garry Freemyer" <garryfre@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Excellent detective work!!! I will try the light thing as well, even a small
laser pointer would help I bet. One could drill out the impurities leaving
small holes that could be patched with epoxy or covered over. Perhaps a
corer could be made where you get a core of pvc to plug the holes remaining.


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Subject: RE: Metal traces in PVC pipe?

Original poster: Vardan <vardan01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi,

I looked at a piece of sanded white thin wall PVC pipe here and there
are all kinds of interesting impurities in the plastic.  Dirt, bug
remains, floor sweepings...  this is not exactly the rocket science
of pure plastics!!  I would guess it only takes someone at the
factory with a drill or metal grinder working on something to get it
full of metal flakes too.

If you take a powerful light (LED light) in a dark room and shine
through the plastic from the inside, it has quite a few "things" in it.

Great find Garry!!  Not sure what can be done about it other than
pre-inspecting the tube and digging out the real bad stuff.

Cheers,

         Terry


At 09:26 AM 7/1/2006, you wrote:

>Garry;
>
>Reason I ask about the ferrous / non-ferrous is I'm wondering if
>what you're seeing is copper from the coil winding that was
>redeposited inside the PVC after a burn-through. Or are you finding
>these metallic 'grains' in places where there was no damage to the
>coil? This is bizarre!
>
>Daniel Hess
>
>
>
>
>
>Original poster: "Garry Freemyer" <garryfre@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
>
>Garry;
>
> >Are the metal fragments you found in the PVC ferrous or non-ferrous?
>(See if they are attracted to a magnet or not.) Are you using the
>blue-green sewer PVC or the white schedule 40 variety?
>
>The bits are too small to determine their nature, the fragments are too
rare
>to be of any purpose and too small to detect, being smaller than a grain >of
>salt usually. It appears to be perhaps tiny shavings from some source,
>perhaps from a saw that cuts the pipe into lengths and the bits
occasionally
>become lodged in the plastic before it hardens fully.
>
>It's the white schedule 40 variety. Precious little else was available.
>
> >By any chance do you install insulating discs inside the coilform?
>(To prevent internal arching?)
>
>Normally I do, I thought I had done this with this latest form but this
>time, I used silicone seal. I think I will be sure to put some insulating
>disks within.
>
>The holes do not go clear through the pipe. There are no burns within.
>
>  >Original poster: "Garry Freemyer" <garryfre@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>  >I've had three or more Tesla coil secondaries die from flaring out the
>side
>  >of the secondary coil. I've just finished an autopsy on the > secondaries
>and
>  >discovered a bit of a surprise.
>
>Daniel Hess
>
>