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Fwd: Re: [TCML] Odd VTTC Streamer Behavior
You mentioned 34" and a 7.35% decrease in sparks. You still gotta remember
your throwing way more voltage than the tube is spec'd for at the plate.
Your using 2 series mots half wave rectified correct? 31" from a single
833c was unheard of until Cameron Prince wowed us all with his maybe 36"
single 833c vttc. Philip, Imho I think your being hard on yourself. 31" is
not lackluster. 31" is an extraordinary acomplishment in my eyes. I do like
your give me more attitude. It will serve you well. But I am not suprised
at all that your having some issues as this system is only been tried by a
couple people to my knowledge besides yourself. Keep up the good work and
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From: Phillip Slawinski <pslawinski@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Oct 21, 2008 7:08am
Subject: Re: [TCML] Odd VTTC Streamer Behavior
To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
I'm running a 2nF 12kV Mica transmitting cap. As I can recall the coil has
always misbehaved above 105-120V. The streamers still have that thudding,
but it's snappier like you said. Of course this is in stacatto mode, and
I've tried adjusting the controller to no avail. I did sharpen my breakout
point which helped a considerable amount, but I'm still two and a half
inches from where I was before. [That's a 7.35% decrease, which is
statistically signifigant.] I think the lackluster performance can be
pinned on the changes I made to the primary. When I was getting 34" hits
consistently I had unraveled my 28 turn primary by a about five turns,
did not remove the extra wire, I had it coiled hanging over the side of
VTTC enclosure. When I decided to tidy this up I removed a little of the
wire, wrapped the rest around the form, glued it in place, and then added
I sure hope my tank cap is not going bad, the last thing I need is another
stain on the carpet.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 22:50, Dr. John W. Gudenas
> I ran into a problem like this and it was associated with the tank
> capacitor starting to fail.
> If I increased the voltage after about 95volts the streamers got smaller
> and "snarpy".
> I wasn't running a staccato controller so like John F. said something
> going bad.
> While not a good idea, in complete frustration, I cranked up the variac
> waited for something to fail.
> I exploded a mica transmitting cap. Nasty mess. If you are running an
> after a run see if they are getting warm.
> All it takes is one bad cap in an MMC. If your coil was running great,
> then it started to run not so great and you didn't change a thing,
> you likely have a failing component or poor connection somewhere. In my
> case it was the tank cap.
> Yours could be different. Good Luck
> John W. Gudenas, Ph.D.
> Professor of Computer Science
> On Oct 20, 2008, at 9:28 PM, Phillip Slawinski wrote:
> I ran it for quite a while today, and I think I made some progress
>> getting back to where it used to be. It's hitting 31.5", and it's
>> thudding sound while doing so. It does this while running just shy of
>> 105V. If I push it up to 115V or higher the sparks start to make a
>> sound in addition the the thudding. It's also at this point that the
>> start to branch and become shorter.
>> I tried lowering grid resistance and it only results in shorter sparks,
>> only marginally at that. I'ma little wary to lower the resistance since
>> the accident that marked the end of the good performance I was getting
>> the coil. I kept turning down the resistance until the secondary
>> through the silicone sealant and ruined my grid coil. Of course, this
>> an extreme case, and foolish at that.
>> I did move the grid coil down to increase the coupling a little and
>> seemed to help.
>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 21:03, wrote:
>> The throaty popping sound may be a "bad" sound meaning
>>> the coil is not running just right. Some component may be
>>> failing. Or the staccato controller timing may have changed
>>> in some way. The solid thud sound is good, other types
>>> of sounds can be bad. Is it a raspy sound? If so that's
>>> a sure sign something isn't right. Maybe from the high
>>> power operation of the tubes, they became damaged.
>>> Or arcing may have been occuring in the tubes which
>>> can make a popping sound. You can try reducing the
>>> grid resistance to see if it helps. That tends to keep
>>> the voltages in the tube lower and may help. But it
>>> will make the tubes run hotter of course. But it may
>>> be helpful just as a quick test to get an idea of what's
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