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RE: [TCML] Ballast -- Before or After Variac?



Jim,

Actually I run three different modes:

"Level Shift" - 1/2 wave rectified with 2uf filter - used for CW and
Staccato mode. - Tons of AC component; no good for audio.

Full wave rectified with 10uf filter - used for cathode modulation -
acts and sounds like a small DRSSTC.

Full wave (as above) - grid drive (AM with low level
osc/modulator/mixer) - used for playing real audio in CW (This is "power
hog mode") - sounds like a plasma speaker.

I found that raw AC and level shift act nearly alike. Level shift seems
to give more output (higher plate voltage, maybe?)

Hank

 

-----Original Message-----
From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Mora
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:54 PM
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Subject: RE: [TCML] Ballast -- Before or After Variac?

Hi Hank,

Do you run raw AC or is it rectified? And what voltage do you push it
to? I
don't remember if you had 833C or 833A on your true beauty. 

Jim

Bert Hickman taught me a trick for new coil. He and his crowd, takes the
tubes and pings them with low current 10KV DC which "conditions" the
plate
before running.

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Of Dr.Hankenstein
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:54 PM
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Subject: RE: [TCML] Ballast -- Before or After Variac?

On Zotzilla I have a ballast resistor and choke in series with the pole
xfmr; as the source of voltage is from the main variac. In reality, I
pretty much use the variac for tuning purposes only. Then I run the coil
"wide open". After all, once your coil is properly tuned, you really
don't need a variac at all, do you? Us old ham radio operators typically
use this same procedure for tuning up our amps as well. With some of the
variable chokes now available(very easy to manufacture) that are
adjustable from less than an amp to nearly 100 amps, you really don't
even need a variac in the first place. These chokes amount to nothing
more than a large slug of laminated iron designed to slide in and out of
a large coil of wire. Chokes of this variety make a great current
limiter....and that's what we're after!

Hank 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [TCML] Ballast -- Before or After Variac?

Hey Jeremy,

I have my ballast after the variac and before the piggie. I did it this 
way to have full voltage/current available to the variac and current 
limiting to the piggie...

Scot D



Jeremy Scott wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I was just wondering where the optimal place in the circuit is for the
ballast?
>
>Should it go in series with the variac input, or series with the variac
output? 
>
>Modeling it in SPICE, it appears to function either way. 
>
>The ballast is an arc welder with a range of 6mH to 18mH (measured), 
>output terminals shorted.
>
>The variac is a 30A Powerstat with an input of 125mH to an output range

>of 0-180mH (measured - 120VAC in, 0-140VAC out.)
>
>I haven't hooked it up and measured the output for real yet, but SPICE
modeling shows some interesting results:
>
>When placed AFTER the variac on the variable voltage line, it limits
current to 35A on the low end to 50A on the high end. 
>
>When placed BEFORE the variac on the 120VAC voltage line, it limits 
>current to 28A on the low end to 45A on the high end.
>
>So, both results look okay -- this is a 50A circuit, so which is best?
>
>
>
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