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Re: [TCML] Newbe's First Coil



I want to thank everybody who commented on my new Tesla coil. Your input was very helpful. I thought I may give an update.

Since the initial test I rebuilt the top load buy wrapping the cookie tin with 4 inch diameter aluminum duct forming a 18 inch wide toroid. I then taped on a small nail to encourage the sparks to start. This really didn't much change the length of the streamers but they were noticeably brighter.

I added a dedicated 8 foot ground rod for the RF side of the circuit. No real change in performance.

Then I built a 4 segment spark gap out of copper pipe fittings. This worked noticeably better but got hot and the gap spacing closed up. So I rebuilt it and added a muffin fan. This worked a lot better, had a real snappy sound and significantly longer streamer from the top load... for about 10 seconds. Then the fun stopped! I guess the new spark gap overstressed the ceramic capacitors and one of them quietly broke down.

So now I'm in the market for a new capacitor. From what I read a MMC is the way to go, but I'm kind cheap and it would probability cost as much as I have in the whole coil so far. Also, even after lots of reading up, I'm a bit confused about choosing an appropriate value both in capacity and breakdown voltage. Do I need more then one string in parallel to handle the current? I purchased another OBIT on Ebay so I will have 2 parallel identical 10kv 23mA transformers powering it.

I haven't completely ruled out making my own capacitor. The party cup design looks intriguing.

Is there a down side to going big with the capacitor value with the thought in mind that I may drive the coil with a some somewhat bigger power supply in the near future. I have a number of 6-7 kv radio transmitter plate transformers around here that I may wish to try, so if I'm buying expensive new parts, I may want to give myself some room to grow. My thought is that if the capacitor value is a bit larger then optimum I may have trouble charging it fully with the limited OBIT power supply, but is this a big liability in performance?

Again, any suggestions are very much appreciated.

Charlie
K3YA




-----Original Message-----
From: cbroring@xxxxxxx
To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 1:21 pm
Subject: [TCML] Newbe's First Coil


Hello to the members of this list. For no particular reason I built a Tesla Coil this winter. Just got it running, more or less. So (hopefully) here are a couple of photo's of what I put together. 
 
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5567/1000420.jpg ;
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/5931/1000424e.jpg ;
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5043/1000425.jpg ;
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5164/1000427.jpg ;
 
The transformer is a 10kv 23mA oil burner trans. Primary is about 12 turns # 14 sold house wire 10" diameter with a couple extra taps available. Secondary is 1300 turns #27 on 3.5 inch pvc. Spark gap is 2 nails spaced about 5/16" Capacitor is two 6000pF 30kv hokey puck ceramics, and one shows a slight temperature rise with use. Top load is a cookie tin and bent pizza pan. The ground is the house wiring tied in to an extensive ham radio/ lightening ground system. 
 
It really doesn't work that great. I removed a coupe turns and moved the tap around to get the best coupling I could. I get a ring of 2 inch sparks of the pizza plate. I put a screwdriver on top and get 3-4 inch sparks off that. I haven't tried bringing a grounded probe to the top load yet. Anyway, I read that the ceramic capacitors are not really durable and one of mine shows some heating after a minuet or so of on time to. I think I need to work on that next. I expected a little more out of it even with the 250 watt power transformer. 
 
I need to figure out how to ground the thing. I need a better capacitor. I have lots of big transformers and DC power supplies to play with once I get the coil working a bit better. 
 
Any suggestions are much appreciated. 
 
Charlie 
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