Re: [TCML] Muscle pain from tesla coil??

["Peter Terren" <pterren@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

As a consultant physician I could comment on much that has been said here 
including the relevance of 1W/cm2 u/s with its significant heating effect. 
Well known and used by physiotherapists frequently.
However there is much pseudo scientific anecdote that has no physiological 
plausibility.
I recommend that this thread be snipped.
Peter Terren

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From: "David Thomson" <tcbuilder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 8:37 AM
To: <mddeming@xxxxxxx>; "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [TCML] Muscle pain from tesla coil??

> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:05 PM, mddeming--- via Tesla <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > You guys are in serious need of some scientific research on effects such 
> > as
> > vasodilation with the use of 29 khz (and probably harmonics).
> >
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16875980
> >
> >
> > 1) Some of us know the difference between electromagnetic waves and sound
> > waves. Some aether theorists still don't.
> Perhaps you need to study Aether physics, then, because a plasma ball puts
> out electrostatic waves, not sound waves.
>
> Also, I built flat spiral coils for doctors in Asia specifically for
> > melting kidney stones with Tesla coils. They were lower frequency, but
> > still, there are numerous physiological effects that high potential coils
> > can have on the body.
> >
> > 2) Medical quackery is rampant in Asia.
> Hmmm. Apparently medical quackery is rampant with the National Institute 
> of
> Health, too.
>
> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/007113.htm
>
>
> > Part of it depends on the person's health. If they already have clogged
> > arteries, then they may be particularly sensitive to having their 
> > arteries
> > dilated, experience good blood flow, and when the coil stops, they will
> > experience poor blood flow again, and hence the pains.
> >
> > 3) Again EM waves are still not sound waves.
> Again, not only sound waves cause vasodilation. Electrostatic waves, such
> as those emitted from the top load of a well tuned Tesla coil, will do the
> job, too.
>
>
> > It is not psychosomatic, it is very real. I experienced this first hand
> > when I was running a plasma ball 24/7 in tight living quarters. It 
> > happened
> > after I shattered my leg and gained a lot of weight and developed
> > atherosclerosis. The 29 khz of the plasma ball made me feel great in my
> > house, but when I left the electrostatic field of the ball, my arteries
> > contracted and I felt panic attacks set in. The effects are quite real.
> >
> > 3) Anecdotal evidence is science only in the fringes.
> I believe the question that started this thread was asking for the 
> personal
> experiences of other coilers. I gave mine.
>
> Dave
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