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Re: [TCML] My first SGTC build.



Welcome to the list...


On 6/5/18 7:47 AM, James Janota wrote:
   After watching Chris Boden with Billy and Trevor on their Geek Group Youtube channel, and the opportunity that Chris directed me to this group. As a first time builder of these types of devices, I'm hoping that I can get assistance to direct me to the supplies I need and the formulas to determine how to tune and understand the interactions better. Hopefully, I can make a wireless transmission source to experiment with. I'm not looking for a free lunch as I intend to do the work, I just need to learn how to do the work. I've got my Amateur Extra Radio Operators license, so I know antennas and a few things in regards to radio operations. What I have seen so far on other TC builds, Tesla coils are a different animal. So I'm a scoach out of my elements(pun Intended).


Well - tesla coils are resonant circuits and terrible antennas...



  Anyway, So far I have made a secondary coil with 2" pvc with 20" length of coils of 26ga magnet wire hand spun without a jig. I've counted @ 1000 turns.

This is good.


If this is like a 1/4 wave ground plane antenna,
the resonant frequency I have on the secondary is about 144Mhz. If I take the formula of 468/frequency in mhz I should have 20" if I was to make a 1/4 wave antenna. However, I may be over simplifying this or altogether wrong.


yep - totally off base. The length of the wire is immaterial - it's basically a lumped inductor with a fair amount of distributed capacitance. You'll see, in some older literature, a contention that the length of the wire (500 some odd feet, in your case) might be 1/4 wavelength, but that's just happenstance.




 I'm thinking the primary coil and the secondary have
to be on the same resonance to be able to be dance partners. Hopefully, I can make the primary out of 10 AWG solid wire, as I have an abundance at my house.


Yes, the L and C of the secondary should match the L and C of the primary.

What you want to do is find a program like JavaTC
http://www.classictesla.com/java/javatc/javatc.html

or one of the many spreadsheets (I use one from Ed Sonderman that's probably 30 years old by now).

The C of the secondary is a combination of the self C of the coil plus your topload (some sort of toroid) - you want a toroid (dryerduct and aluminum pieplate is common) so that the E field along your secondary is reasonably even. And to help bring the resonant frequency down a bit.

Once you know that, and you've chosen some primary capacitors, you can wind your primary. A flat spiral seems to be popular - good field distribution and it's easy to adjust the coupling between primary and secondary by raising and lowering the secondary, relative to the flat primary.

Shoot for around a dozen turns on the primary, spaced about 1/2" apart, with a 4-6" hole in the middle (1-2" clearance so you don't get arcs between turns or between primary and secondary).



  Other than that I was thinking of a NST output of 15kv may be overkill for the secondary or does it matter? I did want to start off small at first to get the basics down, then go bigger as my confidence builds. I know I have a lot of homework on my hands and I hope y'all can guide me through the process.


Your 15kV NST is perfect to start with. Going significantly smaller is harder because things like spark gap losses are constant, so less power means everything else has to work just right.

What are you using for a spark gap? I'm a fan of 3 pieces of copper tubing in parallel with a fan blowing on it. I wouldn't suggest the "two carriage bolts" approach. You want a large surface area for your spark gap, so that you don't get hot spots.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jimlux/hv/images/tubegap3x.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~jimlux/hv/images/3pipe.gif


This is the sort of size class you're looking at:

http://home.earthlink.net/~jimlux/tc.htm



Thanks for having this knowledge base resource available, and thanks for you time and assistance.

James Janota
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