Re: de-tarring question.....:)
Paraffin wax sounds like a good idea. I have used 50% paraffin wax and 50%
bees wax and a Crayola Crayon for color for reloading bullets for 20 years.
I know paraffin wax has a very low melt temperature of about 125 degrees F.
If the neon ever arcs it will be easy to re-melt the wax. I melt my
paraffin wax in the summer by placing it in a pan on the driveway and
putting a small sheet of black polyethylene platic over the pan. Solar
power does the work and in about 2 hours the wax is melted from the heat of
the sun. Wax will be less messy than oil and you could put the transformer
back into the same case again if you want. You will have to be careful where
you keep your wax neon, don't leave it in the car with the windows rolled up
during the hot summer other wise you will have a mess. Cool idea. :)
At 03:22 PM 2/13/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Original Poster: Bruce Ives <brucei-at-bellsouth-dot-net>
>At 09:31 PM 2/12/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>>Original Poster: weaver77-at-home-dot-com
>>Probably the easest way to remove the tar is melt it in the kitchen
>>It will melt at about 200 degrees F unless it is very old and dryed out then
>>it may melt about 250 or 300 degrees at the most.
>>Try the lowest temperature first.+AKA- As long as you don't over heat the
>>won't produce any smoke. Put aluminum foil around the case to contain any
>>leaks.+AKA- Remove the cover on top of the case. After one hour in the
>>200 deg F check to see if the tar is melted.+AKA- If not turn the heat up
>>and wait another hour.+AKA- When the tar is liquid you can simply poor
>>out of the case like water.
>>There is nothing holding the transformer inside the case so be careful not
>>to let the transformer fall out.+AKA- Cut the wires off at the
>>Remove the transformer and wipe it with a rag.+AKA- The transformer is very
>>to dissamble while its is still hot.+AKA- Remove the screws and coils.
>>cools wash the pieces with gasoline to remove all the tar.
>>Now it is ready to re-assemble.+AKA- Be sure to put the coils back on the
>>way they came off.+AKA- Remove a few of the shunts to increase the current
>>output.+AKA- Use a ma meter to find the correct location for the coils
>>correct number of shunts. Be sure each coil produces the same amount of
>>current. Wedge the shunts and coils in place with polyethylene so they can
>>not move. Put the transformer in a box filled with high voltage oil.+AKA- You
>>can build a box from plywood coated with polyester resin or make one out of
>>plexiglass. Be sure you have 1/2" of oil around the sides of the transformer
>>and 1" of oil above the transformer. Now the thing is almost indestructible.
>>You and also mix 50% used tar with 50% high voltage oil in a pan.+AKA-
>>on a camp stove or BBQ grill outside until it melts and mixes. Put the
>>transformer back into its original case and pour the liquid tar into the
>>case until it is full.+AKA- This is not as good as HV oil in a box but its
>>better than the old dried out tar.
>>Tesla List wrote:
>> > Original Poster: peterB <zardoz-at-albany-dot-net>
>> > Hi,
>> > I have a double spark coil that is filled with (tar?). Black and hard,
>> > but waxy.
>> > I would like to remove it. I know nothing about de-tarring transformers,
>> > but think the
>> > process would be similar.
>> > How is it done?
>> > Thanks,
>> > -Pete B.
>hi Pete I have de-potted a couple of NSTs and would like to make a few
>suggestions and warnings that may be helpful to you. The kitchen oven is a
>good way to melt the tar out of a transformer but there are some
>disadvantages : 1 it WILL stink up your house 2 It WILL make a mess of
>your oven ( Murphys Law) and you will smell tar every time you use it
>until___3 your ol' lady will be absolutely furious and will NEVER let you
>forget the time you "cooked" a transformer in the oven. You may have to buy
>a new oven to restore domestic peace and tranquility <grin>
> I fashioned a sort of dutch oven out of two throw away turkey pans
>and some tin foil and used the burner on my Cajun cooker. Those little $20
>table top gas grills would probably work pretty well too. Anyway I think
>the key here is "keep it outside"
> Once the bulk of the tar is poured off I use a "poor mans parts
>washer" which is a 5 gallon bucket or other suitable container filled with
>enough kerosene or mineral spirits to cover the parts and a small 12
>V submersible bilge pump ( obtainable from west marine or wal-mart for
>about 15 bucks) powered by a car battery or battery charger. Place the
>bucket where in the unlikely event that it catches fire it won't hurt
>anything and let'er rip. Come back in an hour or two and see how it looks.
>This saves an awful lot of scrubbing and is useful for cleaning all kinds
>of greasy things.
> After going through all that trouble to clean that tar off the
>coil surely you don't want to put it back do you? I have found a good
>alternative to tar is household paraffin wax like you would use for home
>canning.( It's about a $1.30 a Lb at your local grocery store) It seems to
>have the advantages of tar and oil. If the transformer begins to overheat
>the wax will melt and act like oil increasing your heat transfer. Under
>normal conditions its a solid so it won't splash around or leak and its
>dielectric strength is adequate if not similar to transformer oil. If you
>need to de-pot the coil again just heat it up and pour it off, you won't
>need the solvent wash again. And this stuff doesn't even stink! The main
>disadvantage is the case will have to be sealed very well. I use epoxy on
>all metal seams, replace gaskets on the bushings and use silicon sealant on
>Hope this helps