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RE: The 1500t secondary myth (long)
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- Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 20:10:26 -0700
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Original poster: "bob bob" <teslaman99@xxxxxxxxxxx>
I think this is an area that could really use some clarity.
None of the images of Bill Wysock's 13M show sparks 55 feet long. If you
take a ruler and scale the spark lengths from the photos on Bill's website,
using the system dimensions which he has published, you arrive at 30-35
feet as an absolute max, making every allowance for the viewing angle, lens
distortion etc. Given that the toroid of the system is only 20 feet off
the ground does it really seem likely that it could arc 55 feet? Very few
Tesla coils can manage sparks twice their own height, let alone 3 times.
I think the all time biggest, with proof, is Greg Leyh's
Electrum. Although it is not publicly viewable, it's location, Alan Gibb's
private sculpture park at Kakanui Point in New Zealand, is well
known. Prior to shipment it was exhibited for an extended period of time
at the Hunter's Point shipyard, and seen there by many coilers (Bill Wysock
and D.C. Cox among them). It's design and construction are well
documented, as is it's performance.
Bob Golka's system is actuallly quite well documented if you know where to
look, one of the TCBOR report tapes has an extended segment detailing it's
construction and performance. The sparks were certainly big, but probably
not larger than Electrum.
Sparks always grow in the telling, without good stills or video it just
Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Yep! The details of Bill's big coil are widely known and it has been seen
by tens of thousands of people. The details are well known:
Greg's coil also has excellent observations:
The locations and final destination of Greg's coil are secret too, but no
doubt it is out there!
Bob Golka's coil is also way way up there, but the details are far less
known. Just can't pin down how big the sparks really were. I don't think
he ever did a "point to point record attempt" thing. He apparently was
not really interested in length or spark records at the time. But it does
appear to be the most "powerful" Tesla coil ever built! It is commonly
believed he pushed more than a megawatt into it!!! I have talked to many
people with first hand knowledge of the thing and it certainly was a giant
super power machine in any case! It actually makes the Model 13 seems
DC's big coil has been "reported" but the details are far less than the
above (almost none), but we will note it. Maybe someday after the
contracts fade into history the details will come out. I think it will be
hard to hide ;-)) "I" have heard there is another big coil out there, so
maybe that is his. Sort of like the F117 20 years ago... something is
At 09:47 AM 12/3/2004, you wrote:
Verification is key. There are lots of claims out there, and when those
people are asked for verification
or proof, its always : "Well, its proprietary", or "We're under contract
so we can release any specifics", or "We're
under privacy or disclosure agreement" or whatever.
But, regardless of all these proprietary, contract, or disclosure
agreements, they are always readily available to
brag about how big the arc is or how much power it draws.
If it was truly proprietary, that information would be a secret as well.
Do i sense some BS here on the list recently????