Re: lifter power supply (fwd)

[Steven Roys <sroys@xxxxxxxx>]

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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:32:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Roberts <quezacotl_14000000000000@xxxxxxxxx>
To: High Voltage list <hvlist@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: lifter power supply (fwd)

So if these lifters don't need a certain polarity to work, has anyone considered using a Tesla Coil to run one? The voltage is extremely high (much higher than anybody else has played around with) and they provide all of that nice good corona that lifters need. =D The only problem would be making sure it wouldn't arc over... you would probably need to space the corona wire and aluminum skirt more... Also, if you made the lifter large enough with relation to the coil, the al skirt would become a nice counterpoise. Simply hook the corona wire to the toroid and the other end of the coil would hook up to the aluminum. It might be interesting to try...

High Voltage list <hvlist@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Original poster: Steven Roys



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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:00:45 -0600
From: Terrell W. Fritz
To: High Voltage list
Subject: Re: lifter power supply (fwd)

Hi,

At 03:11 PM 7/28/2003 -0600, you wrote:
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>Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:38:59 -0600
>From: CwhY
>To: High Voltage list
>Subject: Re: lifter power supply
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>One one of the lifter pages I found through links posted here, I noticed a
>mention of reversing the power supply polarity and still acheiving lift. In
>light of the mentions here about polarity issues, I thought it might be
>worth mentioning.

Yeah Richard says it should still work too. I turned the voltage up "too
high" on my first lifter and burnt it up :-p But I want to make a new one!!

>
>My question, though, is this: are these for real? I'm guessing there must be
>something to it, if it attracted Terry's interest. But until I saw them
>discussed here, I had long relegated the idea to "pseudo-scientific hogwash"
>status. I was first exposed to the idea in
>free-energy/antigravity/Tesla-Venusian-mind-ray type circles, and I don't
>recall seeing any more "reputable" information on them.

They are very "real" ;-))

http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/main.htm

Check out this page where they are lifting a living mouse with one!!!!!!!!!

http://jlnlabs.imars.com/lifters/orville/index.htm

They have "movies" and all!!!!

Orville's Lifter-Craft "Maximus" specifications :
Orville, the mouse weight : 24g
Lifter "Maximus" weight ( on 01-08-03 ) : 140 g
Orville's Lifter pod weight : 16 g
Total weight of the Lifter-craft with Orville is : 180 g
Power supply voltage : 35KV DC
Current : about 10mA
HV Power : about 350 Watts

"I" would have put Orville in a Faraday cage incase all that high voltage
got all screwed up in a tangle... Would not have wanted Orville to end up
as the first electofataility...

>
>However, given even _some_ hope of the legitimacy of these devices, I am
>quite likely to do some experiments since they appear easy enough to
>construct and power using (mostly) stuff I already have.

They are "real" ;-)) They work off that same force that drive
electrostatic pinwheels. "Pulsing" the power and using super thin wires
seems to really "optimize" the functioning of the darn things...

I think the "Holy Grail" would be to have a radio controlled one that
contained it's own internal HV supply and thus could fly around without
"strings"... I imagine varying the voltages on the sides could "steer" it
around...

Super cool stuff!!, but the technology is still very crude... Needs a
bunch of super light weight HV switching power supplies....

BTW - Glad to see the new list is going so well!! ;-))))))

Cheers,

Terry

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>-CwhY
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-Chris

"The trouble is not that the world is full of fools, it's just that lightning isn't distributed right." -Mark Twain

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein


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