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RE: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!UPDATE!!!!!!



Original poster: "Luke" <Bluu-at-cox-dot-net> 

I am far from qualified to answer his questions but I was thinking.
He said he had a dead line.  I also know there is a lag in information
speed using the list.

Just throwing out the idea that someone qulified contact him off list
via email to speed up the flow of information so not only can he get it
running in time for his big day, he can learn the safe way to set up and
tune his system.

Luke Galyan
Bluu-at-cox-dot-net

-----Original Message-----
From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:50 PM
To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
Subject: Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!UPDATE!!!!!!

Original poster: "Nightmare" <nightmare-at-bak.rr-dot-com>

ok, i closed the gap closer and now i get the gap to fire! but no
streamers,
when i touch a rod to the torioid or breakout wire i get a like .5mm
spark.
What now?

Ravi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!


  > Original poster: "Jim Mitchell" <electrontube-at-sbcglobal-dot-net>
  >
  > IMHO and experience 2 liter plastic soda bottles will burn through
even
with
  > a small power supply.  You could try glass bottles...
  >
  > Regards - Jim Mitchell
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
  > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
  > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:47 PM
  > Subject: Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!
  >
  >
  >  > Original poster: brent meyer <res095fx-at-verizon-dot-net>
  >  >
  >  > I think he said soda bottles wrapped in aluminum...  You probably
have
a
  >  > short, your gap is too wide, or you have an unknown leakage
somewhere.
  > How
  >  > loudly is the transformer humming?  They usually don't do that
unless
they
  >  > are under a load of some sort, so I'd venture to say you have a
short
  >  > somewhere.  Just remember to keep your left hand in your pocket
while
  >  > troubleshooting, this is the time when you are most likely to get
bit,
  > when
  >  > things aren't working.  Don't let the pressure of the deadline
allow
you
  > to
  >  > become sloppy.  You have plenty of time to find the problem.
  >  >
  >  > Look at the component parts of the system when troubleshooting.
Do not
  >  > assume anything works.  Look over each of the components
separately,
and
  >  > test them in whatever fashion possible.  You have already done so
with
the
  >  > NST, progress now to your spark gap.  Separate it from the rest of
the
  >  > system and see if you get a discharge with just the transformer
connected.
  >  > Make sure the cap isn't connected when you do this, and remember
7KV
won't
  >  > jump more than about a 1/4 inch gap...
  >  >
  >  >  > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
  >  >  > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:50:22 -0700
  >  >  > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
  >  >  > Subject: Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!
  >  >  > Resent-From: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
  >  >  > Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:02:09 -0700
  >  >  >
  >  >  > Original poster: "Jim Mitchell" <electrontube-at-sbcglobal-dot-net>
  >  >  >
  >  >  > Soda bottles?!? Aluminum?  If so that will not work you need
glass
  > bottles.
  >  >  >
  >  >  > Regards - Jim Mitchell
  >  >  > ----- Original Message -----
  >  >  > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
  >  >  > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
  >  >  > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 1:28 PM
  >  >  > Subject: Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!
  >  >  >
  >  >  >
  >  >  >> Original poster: "Aaron Aab" <striker754-at-earthlink-dot-net>
  >  >  >>
  >  >  >> I'm guessing you dont ahve enough capacitance or spark gap is
too
big
  > for
  >  >  >> the power level.
  >  >  >>
  >  >  >> I'm not sure how much uF each of those bottles is worth, maybe
0.01?
  >  >  >>
  >  >  >> Try moving the spark gap closer together, the transformer you
have
is
  >  >  > fairly
  >  >  >> small.
  >  >  >>
  >  >  >> Aaron
  >  >  >>
  >  >  >> ----- Original Message -----
  >  >  >> From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
  >  >  >> To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
  >  >  >> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:02 AM
  >  >  >> Subject: Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!
  >  >  >>
  >  >  >>
  >  >  >>> Original poster: "Nightmare" <nightmare-at-bak.rr-dot-com>
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>> Hi, this is ravi, i just made my first TC and it wont light,
i
wired
  >  >  >>> everything up right but it still wont light! It was grounded
and
  >  >  >>> everything. I plug it in and nothing happens. I tested the
  > transformer
  >  >  > by
  >  >  >>> plugging it in and the terminals arc to each other like a
jacobs
  > ladder
  >  >  >> and
  >  >  >>> it works, but nothing happens when i plug it in! All i hear
is the
  >  >  > humming
  >  >  >>> of the transformer Please help. I  ve experimented and done
all i
can
  > .
  >  >  > I
  >  >  >>> need this done by next Friday for science fair so please
help. The
  >  >  > spark
  >  >  >>> gap doesnt fire either, ive tried 2 different transformers
and the
  > same
  >  >  >>> thing. Please email me off group for picctures since it
doesnt
  > support
  >  >  >>> attatchments. Here are my coil specs:
  >  >  >>> Secondary: 22inx3in 18in windings
  >  >  >>> Primary: ~7-8 turns of 1/4in copper tubing with various
adjusted
taps
  >  >  > with
  >  >  >>> clip.
  >  >  >>> Caps: 4 soda bottles covered in foil wrapped in elec. tape.
filled
  > with
  >  >  >>> salt water. all connected with ring terminals
  >  >  >>> Spark gap: 2 1.25in dia copper pipes 3.25in long
  >  >  >>> Transformer: 1st is 7.5kV 30mA 60Hz 2nd one i tried is
4.0-4.5kV
30mA
  >  >  >> 50/60Hz
  >  >  >>> Toroid, 3in air cond duct with 2 pie plates like this >--< in
center
  > to
  >  >  >>> hold in place 9 in inner dia 15 in outer dia.
  >  >  >>> Everything is conected with ring terminals and 600V hardware
wire,
  > and
  >  >  >>> gator clips for primary.
  >  >  >>> I used the schematics on deepfriedneon-dot-com exept with diff.
gap
and
  >  >  > bottle
  >  >  >>> caps instead of MMC's. Please help me I've done all i can.
Again,
if
  >  >  > you
  >  >  >>> need pics please email me seperately and i will send them.
Thank A
  >  >  > LOT!!!!
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>> A desperate 8th Grader,
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>> Ravi
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>> Thanks A LOT for the help.            Thanks A LOT again
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>> Ravi
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>>
  >  >  >>
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