Re: Wiring suggestions

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Original poster: "Hydrogen18" <hydrogen18-at-bellsouth-dot-net> 

Ok thanks, I have noticed alot of the better appliance wiring seems to not
breakdown till extreme over voltage. I suspect its a company liability
issue, and it allows the wire to rub and thin out and still function.

---Eric
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Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Wiring suggestions


 > Original poster: "Dr. Resonance" <resonance-at-jvlnet-dot-com>
 >
 >
 > We use the 300 Volt cable and it does not fail unless pushed over-current
 > for long periods of time.
 >
 > You should be safe.
 >
 > Dr. Resonance
 >
 >
 > ----- >
 >  > I bought some 10/3 300 volt stuff today. I asked for 10/3 600 volt but
he
 >  > sold me the wrong stuff I realized after I got out of the store. If it
 > fails
 >  > I'll just tell them I asked for 600 volt and they sold me 300 so its
there
 >  > fault. Thanks for the help guys.
 >  >
 >  > ---Eric
 >  > ----- Original Message -----
 >  > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 4:08 PM
 >  > Subject: Re: Wiring suggestions
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  > Original poster: "Jim Lux" <jimlux-at-earthlink-dot-net>
 >  >  >
 >  >  > If you're using 240V, then why not use a grounding plug with the two
 > hots
 >  >  > and ground?  You can make 120 from 240V inside your box if you need
it
 >  > with
 >  >  > a small transformer or other means.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Anytime someone talks about creating a piece of high power
electrical
 >  > gear,
 >  >  > and doesn't connect a "safety ground" at the same time, I get a bit
 >  > nervous.
 >  >  > (aside from it being pretty blatantly "not to code"... the only
cases I
 >  > can
 >  >  > recall where you don't need an explicit ground connection, tied to
the
 >  > power
 >  >  > ground in some fairly reliable way, is with permanently installed
 >  > appliances
 >  >  > where the grounding is assured by "other means").
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Yes, they DO sell plugs that have three blades and no ground, but
 > they're
 >  >  > for special purposes, and their use is deprecated on new equipment.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > The ground stake may be fine for RF (although maybe not...), it's
not
 >  >  > sufficient for electrical safety purposes, unless you've separately
run
 > a
 >  >  > wire to the electrical system grounding point and bonded it
 > sufficiently
 >  >  > you're taking your life (or someone else's) life in your hands.
(that
 >  >  > doesn't mean a 24AWG cliplead, but is a "exothermically welded" or
 >  > "approved
 >  >  > pressure connector" sort of thing)
 >  >  >
 >  >  > The correct plugs and receptacles are too cheap to fool with trying
to
 >  >  > cobble together something else.  If you're running enough power that
 > you
 >  >  > need 30Amp service (i.e. you're not just running a single NST, etc.)
 > then
 >  >  > you need to make the $20-40 investment in the right plug and
 > receptacle.
 >  >  > That AWG 10 power cord is going to set you back that much if it's
very
 >  > long.
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  > ----- Original Message -----
 >  >  > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  >  > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  >  > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 10:25 AM
 >  >  > Subject: Re: Wiring suggestions
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  >  > Original poster: "Hydrogen18" <hydrogen18-at-hydrogen18-dot-com>
 >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  > The plug I use has both sides of the line and the neutral, no
 > ground.
 >  > My
 >  >  >  > garage wasnt wired for 4 wire. Plus, I have a ground stake which
 > will
 >  > be
 >  >  >  > connected to this thing when in use. I'm probaly goign to get 3
wire
 > 10
 >  >  >  > guage tommorow.
 >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  > ---Eric
 >  >  >  > ----- Original Message -----
 >  >  >  > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  >  >  > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  >  >  > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 7:34 PM
 >  >  >  > Subject: Re: Wiring suggestions
 >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  >  > Original poster: "Jim Lux" <jimlux-at-earthlink-dot-net>
 >  >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  >  > ----- Original Message -----
 >  >  >  >  > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  >  >  >  > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  >  >  >  > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 3:41 PM
 >  >  >  >  > Subject: Re: Wiring suggestions
 >  >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  >  >  > Original poster: "Harold Weiss" <hweiss-at-new.rr-dot-com>
 >  >  >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  >  >  > Hi Eric,
 >  >  >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  >  >  > You would want at least 10 gauge wire for 30A.  10/4 SOW
cable
 >  > can
 >  >  > be
 >  >  >  >  > bought
 >  >  >  >  >  > at most home improvement stores.  The black and red are
your
 > hot
 >  >  > leads,
 >  >  >  >  > with
 >  >  >  >  >  > the white being neutral and the green ground.  Preferably
go
 > with
 >  >  > 30A
 >  >  >  >  > twist
 >  >  >  >  >  > lock connections, as the 30A dryer plugs aren't the safest
 > things
 >  > to
 >  >  >  >  > unplug
 >  >  >  >  >  > if the line is hot. (too easy to get fingers into the
prongs)
 >  >  >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >
 >  >
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