Re: Side-wise Vectors?????

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Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-twfpowerelectronics-dot-com>

Hi Bert,

I don't think the streamers care about air currents or gravity.

I just mounted the coil horizontal like this:

http://hot-streamer-dot-com/temp/PB210005.JPG

and the resulting streamers look like this:

http://hot-streamer-dot-com/temp/PB210005.JPG

Each "spear" forms and disappears in a flash and I don't think the air has 
anytime to do anything.  Right at the hot base of the arcs you can see a 
little warm air rising effect but not further out.  The cork screws seem 
just the same to me.

Here are some additional pics:

http://hot-streamer-dot-com/temp/PB210006.JPG

http://hot-streamer-dot-com/temp/PB210007.JPG

In the last one, note that the cork screws are happily going downward...

http://hot-streamer-dot-com/temp/PB210010.JPG

Cheers,

         Terry


At 12:25 PM 11/21/2004, you wrote:
>Hi Terry,
>
>Good experiment!
>
>Do you see the same degree of spiraling when the streamers are directed in 
>a horizontal direction versus when they're vertical? If not, then perhaps 
>we're seeing an interaction between the streamers and hot air vortices 
>that preferentially affect vertically oriented streamers. Streamers from 
>VTTC's and SSTC's may be liberating more heat (on average) than disruptive 
>coils, perhaps accounting for the effects being more noticeable on these 
>systems. However, vortex (tornado-like) discharges are sometimes seen on 
>disruptive coils as well, particularly at the top of coils that use 
>spherical toploads in very still air.
>
>Best regards,
>
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>Tesla list wrote:
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>>Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-twfpowerelectronics-dot-com>
>>Hi,
>>Of course, EM theory is always right :o)
>>I suspect that the powerful magnetic field is having zero effect on the 
>>streamers.
>>Lest we make Karl Gauss mad :o)
>>What we are seeing is probably electrostatic repulsion of like charges.
>>The metal coated magnet and the streamers have the same charge and thus 
>>they repel.
>>I will test a similar size shape piece of aluminum to see if just the 
>>"conductor" is causing the repulsion of the streamers.
>>I wrapped a nonmagnetic disk of about the same size with foil and tried it:
>>http://hot-streamer-dot-com/temp/PB210001.JPG
>>Yep!!  The magnetic field is not causing the repulsion.  It is just plain 
>>old electrostatics at work.
>>Still waiting for the string theory guys to bust orthodox EM theory here  >:)
>>I wonder if the feathers on the streamers are just electrons being forced 
>>away from the main path by repulsion and they tend to form the cork 
>>screws due to complex 3D effects...  Might need some high level nuclear 
>>3D real time modeling to figure that one out...
>>Cheers,
>>         Terry
>>At 09:30 AM 11/21/2004, you wrote:
>>
>>>Terry,
>>>
>>>Your experimental findings are quite interesting.  What is the 
>>>mechainism of BOTH north and south magnetic field orientations repelling 
>>>the streamers?  How does this fit with orthodox EM theory?
>>>
>>>RWW
>>>
>>>>
>>>> >          I tried putting the magnet 90 degrees to
>>>> > the arc.  The arc was
>>>> > very heavily pushed "away" from the magnet in "both"
>>>> > the north and south
>>>> > orientations:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://hot-streamer-dot-com/temp/PB190014a.JPG
>>>
>>>
>>
>>.
>
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