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[TCML] Re: Tesla Digest, Vol 14, Issue 36



What is going on?

Why are all the emails from the Tesla forum like this one the subject line says,  Tesla Digest, Vol 14, Issue 36.














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>   1. Re: Was Primary Grounding now RF gnd Center ball safety gap /
>      primary strikes (Yurtle Turtle)
>   2. Re: David's Mongo arc (David Rieben)
>   3. Re: Was Primary Grounding now RF gnd Center ball safety gap /
>      primary strikes (Phillip Slawinski)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:31:07 -0800 (PST)
>From: Yurtle Turtle <yurtle_t@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [TCML] Was Primary Grounding now RF gnd Center ball
>	safety gap /	primary strikes
>To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
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>No. Just an old vacuum cleaner motor mounted under the primary, and a bit of shiny copper tubing (sorry Bart, I like copper). Certainly less work than building a primary, secondary, control cabinet, topload, rsg, etc.
>
>In fact, the outer turns of the primary can be perforated in a few minutes, then connected to a blower via a short run of insulating Tygon tubing.
>
>However, I'll bet for a smaller coil, four muffin or microwave oven fans (I know you already have dozens in your junk box for??) would probably do the trick.
>
>Adam
>
>--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Phillip Slawinski <pslawinski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> From: Phillip Slawinski <pslawinski@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [TCML] Was Primary Grounding now RF gnd Center ball safety gap / primary strikes
>> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:06 PM
>
>> Maybe this would work, but aren't we getting a little
>> bit too elaborate?
>> You'd have to drag out an air compressor, air tank, or
>> similar to make this
>> work.  To me the simplest solutions often turn out to be
>> the best ones.
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 20:07, bartb
>> <bartb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> > Forget the copper. Just use LDPE tubing or similar.
>> Garden supply at Home
>> > Depot probably has the holes already in tubing ready
>> to go.
>> > Bart
>> >
>> > Yurtle Turtle wrote:
>> >
>> >> Heck, why am I so stupid? Simply add (or modify) a
>> strike rail of copper
>> >> pipe as usual. Add an air source, then drill holes
>> every inch or so, to
>> >> create a discharge header. Should work GREAT!
>> Heck, you can aim the holes
>> >> for maximum effect.
>> >>
>> >> Adam
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:16:26 -0600
>From: "David Rieben" <drieben@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [TCML] David's Mongo arc
>To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
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>Hi Jim,
>
>As with most high voltage arcs when you start
>throwing capacitance into the mix, it's notably
>louder. The wife actually compains about the
>noise of this arc in my garage from inside the
>house. The garage is attached to the house but
>there is a door between them.
>
>David
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Jim Mora" <wavetuner@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: "'Tesla Coil Mailing List'" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:45 AM
>Subject: [TCML] David's Mongo arc
>
>
>> Hello List, David
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> JAVATC says that 250volts@100 amps for 25KVA  for 14.4KV yields a little
>> more than .31 uf res cap. That is some kind of ARC! Is it as loud as your
>> x-ray JL or louder;-) ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jim Mora
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:44:48 -0600
>From: "Phillip Slawinski" <pslawinski@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [TCML] Was Primary Grounding now RF gnd Center ball
>	safety gap /	primary strikes
>To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
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>What I'm saying here is that is just an extra component that does not add to
>spark length, and requires another strike target (the power cord) be run out
>to it.  I'm not saying it is a bad idea, or that it would not work.  I just
>prefer simpler solutions like perhaps adding a second toroid for extra
>shielding.  I like to keep the component count down on all my coils.  I
>don't even use a safety gap, I just keep my static gap set conservatively.
>
>Another thing to consider is that if you run this inside you will be
>circulating more air around the TC and bringing in fresh air for it to
>ionize.  This could lead to the TC producing more ozone than without the
>fan.
>
>On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 05:31, Yurtle Turtle <yurtle_t@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> No. Just an old vacuum cleaner motor mounted under the primary, and a bit
>> of shiny copper tubing (sorry Bart, I like copper). Certainly less work than
>> building a primary, secondary, control cabinet, topload, rsg, etc.
>>
>> In fact, the outer turns of the primary can be perforated in a few minutes,
>> then connected to a blower via a short run of insulating Tygon tubing.
>>
>> However, I'll bet for a smaller coil, four muffin or microwave oven fans (I
>> know you already have dozens in your junk box for??) would probably do the
>> trick.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Phillip Slawinski <pslawinski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Phillip Slawinski <pslawinski@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Was Primary Grounding now RF gnd Center ball safety
>> gap / primary strikes
>> > To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:06 PM
>>
>> > Maybe this would work, but aren't we getting a little
>> > bit too elaborate?
>> > You'd have to drag out an air compressor, air tank, or
>> > similar to make this
>> > work.  To me the simplest solutions often turn out to be
>> > the best ones.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 20:07, bartb
>> > <bartb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Forget the copper. Just use LDPE tubing or similar.
>> > Garden supply at Home
>> > > Depot probably has the holes already in tubing ready
>> > to go.
>> > > Bart
>> > >
>> > > Yurtle Turtle wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Heck, why am I so stupid? Simply add (or modify) a
>> > strike rail of copper
>> > >> pipe as usual. Add an air source, then drill holes
>> > every inch or so, to
>> > >> create a discharge header. Should work GREAT!
>> > Heck, you can aim the holes
>> > >> for maximum effect.
>> > >>
>> > >> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
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