Re: HV accident (Ceiling strikes) (fwd)

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 19:31:53 +0800
From: Peter Terren <pterren@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: HV accident (Ceiling strikes)

I occasionally disagree with Dr Resonance - well my last 2 posts at least. 
Most commonly when medical facts are at issue (my specialty area) or if I 
have sound experimental evidence otherwise.  But I keep a separate file for 
his excellent posts because they are an exceedingly valuable resource for me 
and other coilers.

In regard to ceiling/wall strikes I certainly agree.  Two anecdotes are 
relevant.
Firstly, I have set some paper insulation smouldering in the storage area of 
my metal shed. The smell alerted me after a minute or so.
Secondly I had a strike to my Jacob's ladders control box. I think it hit 
the neon indicator or the mains switch.  Either way it presumably arced 
across the mains providing a channel for the mains current to destroy both 
with a lot of force.
In a wooden house there is the potential for things to happen that you can't 
smell. And insurance companies are quite right in expecting notification of 
anything that substantially alters risk.

Peter
http://tesladownunder.com

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 18:44:51 -0500
> From: resonance <resonance@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: HV accident (fwd)
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> Yes, they certainly will deny claims.
>
> In the past few years I have seen photos of people operating high power
> solid state (high current in sec discharge) coils with the sparks hitting
> ceilings, wall, etc.  I was slightly horrified at these photographs.
>
> This is a serious mistake.
>
> Imagine, after the sparks have been hitting the walls and ceilings, you 
> shut
> the coil off, and retire for the evening.  The spark has penetrated the 
> wall
> earlier, and now starts some insulation smoldering.  Like a discarded
> cigarette, the smoldering insulation or lumber catches fire and burns your
> house down.
>
> Yes, the insurance company would have valid reasons to deny this claim.  I
> know because a friend whom I play pool with in the winter in Tucson is an
> insurance investigator for the state of Arizona.  I discussed this example
> with him and he said the insurance company would have a valid denial right
> under their usual contracts.
>
> If space is tight, haul the coils outdoors.  Don't risk it.  or use a
> smaller coil that won't hit the walls.
>
>
>
> Dr. Resonance
> Resonance Research Corp.
> www.resonanceresearch.com
>
>
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> From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: HV accident (fwd)
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>> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 13:50:49 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Yurtle Turtle <yurtle_t@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: HV accident (fwd)
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>> My only concern in putting things like that on the web
>> would be the possibility that a homeowners insurance
>> or life insurance company might not want to pay if the
>> house burned down or if he were to die. I always worry
>> that if my house were to burn that they would try to
>> blame all of my HV gear, and deny the claim.
>>
>> Adam
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>> --- Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 21:05:41 +0800
>>> From: Peter Terren <pterren@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Re: HV accident (fwd)
>>>
>> <snip>
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>>> I applaud his candour,however, in describing his
>>> shock.  In the realm of
>>> Occupational Health and Safety, this is appropriate
>>> to document what has
>>> happened, why and how it can be prevented. We should
>>> not shy from doing
>>> this.  It should not be for mud slinging or
>>> accusation but to prevent
>>> recurrence and to learn from this.  No, it should
>>> not be a ghoul show or a
>>> competition. We should bring ourselves in the 21st
>>> century and not cover up
>>> our mistakes.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>> http://tesladownunder.com
>>>
>>
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