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Re: [TCML] HV Panel Meters



Well, in that case it's certainly possible. For accuracy, a high voltage scope probe, maybe a Techtronix P6015.
http://www.testequity.com/products/577/

Also, good current monitors for pulse applications are pretty expensive new, but you can find them on eBay now and then.
For example, heres a nice one: Item number: 190231934098.

Take care,
Bart

Phillip Slawinski wrote:
I mean secondary current and voltage on the NST.

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 8:39 PM, bartb <bartb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Phillip,

A CT such as Pearson sells and a scope with storage capability is probably
the most accurate for current readings. As far as voltage readings, your out
of luck. You can perform estimate testing, but you won't be able to measure
the actual voltage at the top of the coil with a meter. Maybe with some
really nice expensive equipment, but for the run of the mill stuff, not
likely.

Take care,
Bart

Phillip Slawinski wrote:

So it looks like the only way to get a remotely useful reading is to use a
current clamp and a good oscilloscope.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Lau, Gary <Gary.Lau@xxxxxx> wrote:



I tried something similar to read the current from the secondary base.
 Trouble is, with a static gap being so chaotic, the reading varied all
over
the map.  One would need something with a much longer thermal time
constant
than a bulb filament to achieve a stable reading.

Regards, Gary Lau
MA, USA



-----Original Message-----
From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of William Noble
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:01 PM
To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
Subject: RE: [TCML] HV Panel Meters


you may wish to consider a very crude but effective way to measure


irregular


currents in the analog domain - the old fashioned light bulb -

put a bulb whose current rating is consistant with what you want to see


(say a type


47 for a small NST) in series with one lead.  Put the bulb in an


enclosure with a


plastic light pipe (acrylic works well) - you can do this by just


wrapping with tape -


bring the fiber to your panel - color and brightness indicate current.


 if you want to


have a meter do the indicating, shine the fiber onto a
photocell/photoresistor/phototransistor and use that to drive a meter of


your choice


- take some measurements to calibrate it and you are good to go.  This
is


the same


principle used on many true RMS meters in the past, just done in the


"crude and


simple" way.  If you want more accuracy, an air gap of 6 inches with the


bulb at one


end and the photocell at the other, and a photodetectorthat is sensitive


in IR will


improve accuracy - a glass tube with the bulb at one end and the
detector


at the


other, painted black and wrapped with tape will do the trick.> From:
Gary.Lau@xxxxxx> To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:54:37
+0000> Subject: RE: [TCML] HV Panel Meters> CC: > > You can use a


standard


AC analog meter, but here's a couple things to think about.> > 1) You'd


have to


take special precautions to ensure that all parts of the meter are


thoroughly


insulated from a panel and contact with people. It's probably not


advisable to mount


it permanently on a panel.> > 2) AC meters are calibrated to read RMS


current, and


assume that the input waveform is a sine wave. The current drawn from an


NST


into an operating Tesla coil does not remotely resemble a sine wave and
I


can't


offer any sort of conversion factor. So you might benefit form seeing a


relative


indication, but the actual current value would be unknown. To get a


useful RMS


current reading, you would need a true RMS meter, which typically being


digital, is


subject to haywire behavior anywhere near a Tesla coil.> > Regards, Gary


Lau>


MA, USA> > > -----Original Message-----> > From:


tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx


[mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On> > Behalf Of Phillip Slawinski> >


Sent:


Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:26 AM> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List> >


Subject:


[TCML] HV Panel Meters> >> > I'd like to set up some some meters to


measure the


secondary side of my> > transformer [directly]. My question is if a


standard shunted


mA current> > meter would be okay for this, or would I have to get a


special high


voltage> > model?> > _______________________________________________>
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