Re: Adding Secondary High Voltage Mail List group ? ? ?

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Original poster: "Finn Hammer by way of Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <f-h-at-c.dk>

Guys!

I seem to recall, that the tesla-2 list was made open to high voltage
questions just recently.

However, a dedicated list would be much better, and I would join it
imediately.

A high voltage list is needed!

Cheers, Finn Hammer


Tesla list skriver:
 >
 > Original poster: "Terry Fritz" <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>
 >
 > Hi Mike,
 >
 > At 07:49 PM 5/3/2003 +0100, you wrote:
 > >...........
 > >
 > >I think that the subject of Marx gens in particular, and  spark-oriented
 > >HV topics in general is
 > >sufficiently 'close' to Tesla Coiling that a large proportion of the Tesla
 > >list would have some
 > >interest/expertise, and is likely to generate sufficiently few postings 
that
 > >a) most Tesla list members would not object to such topics, and
 > >b) would not generate sufficient traffic on their own to justify a
 > >seperate list - lists with little
 > >traffic tend to die out without a 'critical mass' of postings.
 >
 > There is no doubt that this list's topic is "Tesla coils".  If the number
 > of posts per day is high (like 50+) there is no room for anything else.  If
 > things are slow, I may let other closely related things sneak through.  The
 > recent Marx generator thread was one.  Things like Marx generators, HV
 > stacks, and other hobby high voltage generators are "close enough" to sneak
 > in from time to time if things are slow.  They are also electrical machines
 > that may have many questions as to their construction/operation that "we"
 > will know.  I usually do not allow Van de Graaff generators and other
 > electrostatic machines since they are well discussed elsewhere and are more
 > physical devices rather than electrical (plug into the wall machines).
 >
 > Other HV-lists have failed.  Other Tesla coil lists have failed...  I think
 > we just have to try and see...  Personally, I think a well moderated
 > non-commercial (no darn pop up ads) mailing list would do well.  Mailing
 > lists also have the advantage that they keep your attention since they clog
 > your mail box all the time.  Only those truly interested stay...
 >
 > >I think it may be useful to consider widening  the scope of this list a
 > >little to cover subjects
 > >like this.
 > >Although HV in general is too wide a topic, perhaps something like 'Tesla
 > >coils (and other HV
 > >devices whose primary purpose is to make sparks)' would cover the majority
 > >of topics likely to be of
 > >interest to the majority of the list, without widening it too far into
 > >areas like lifters etc. which
 > >have their own active lists.
 >
 > I think it comes down to a posts per day thing.  If someone signs onto the
 > Tesla coil list and gets 50 Tesla coil posts a day they are happy.  If they
 > get 50 Tesla coil posts and 25 "other", I think they will be unhappy.  Of
 > course, one could easily sign onto both or one of the lists too as they 
wish.
 >
 > I like Chip's idea that the other list could handle "everything else".  I
 > have to turn many cool things down just because they are too far off the
 > topic of Tesla coils...  The new list could decide if certain things should
 > not be discussed.  I assume (and I am sure Chip will specify) that goofy
 > things like Tunguska explosions, free energy, anti-gravity, etc. would be
 > not allowed.  That moderator would have to probably struggle for awhile
 > defining the bondarys and all...  But I would think that any HV thing one
 > could, and hopefully is, "building" would be on topic "except" for Tesla
 > coils :o))  After moderating 54537 posts myself to be sure that they are
 > about Tesla coils, I am not sure I could handle being sure a post is NOT
 > about Tesla coils :o)))  I am happy that it looks like there will be others
 > that moderate it ;-))  I certainly "could" do it, but a fresh moderator for
 > a fresh group would truly gets things going fresh and new!!
 >
 > One advantage our list has is that it IS totally controlled.  All posts are
 > pre-moderated and nobody tells Chip and me what to do.  So if things start
 > to go bad, we CAN fix it.  Usenet has no control so 80++% of some groups
 > are trash...  Some on-line groups are post moderated or "sort of moderated"
 > so a lot gets through and a lot of discussion is spent trying to fix
 > things...  No one really has the authority to "stop it" when it needs to be
 > stopped.  I think these sorts of problems are what really killed many of
 > the groups.
 >
 > I think a well run High Voltage Mailing List (maybe HVML?) would do very
 > well.  It may have a little rough time getting started and making it clear
 > that one's anti-gravity flying saucer positronic anti-matter idea isn't
 > going to get posted (unless they have it running and can fly it over to be
 > sure :o)).  But once it gets going and people see that it is not just
 > another "whacko" group, I think they will come.  One thing us and the
 > Lifters group have going for us is that we both deal in real equipment and
 > real machines.  So things can be judged on how they "really" work and the
 > truth is in real results.  That cuts out a lot of "just talk".  I would
 > hope that the new group would be focused mostly on actually building
 > practical HV machines just to keep things in true focus.
 >
 > I want to sign up!!!
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 >          Terry