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Re: [TCML] SRSG question



A cheap adjustable strobe light (party store variety) has worked great for me.
You can see the entire range of phase adjustment clear as day with the
naked eye, in a stop-motion sense.
But alas, you cannot tell if you will hit the sweet spot until you run the coil.
I lucked out on my first try and hit it exactly at "10" on the Variac dial.
I think the odds of it falling in the proper range off the bat are
actually pretty good, like 1 in 4, or better if you have a lot of
adjustment.



On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Phil Tuck <phil@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
> I put a 5v mains AC voltage on the scopes second channel and display both.
> You then see where the phase is in relation to the AC sine. When it is
> actually running real HV, the spark advances as it 'jumps' to the
> approaching electrode a bit anyway. But by doing it this way you can at
> least see how many degrees your altering the phase by, and you can then
> decide if you have enough movement of the phase at the outset, and the best
> place to set the rotor initially to make use of the amount of shift that you
> do have. John's circuit is a real time saver.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3tjmEk3aQ
>
> You don't need a photo sensor as in the vid, as Teslalabour's method will
> work as well.
>
> Regards
> Phil
>
> www.hvtesla.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Gary Lau
> Sent: 16 November 2010 21:42
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [TCML] SRSG question
>
> When using Line-Sync on the scope, that works fine for verifying that the
> motor is running synchronously, but it offers no guidance as to where the
> phase should be set for optimal operation.
>
> Regards, Gary Lau
> MA, USA
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Teslalabor <teslalabor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I prefer the method of replacing the electrodes by steel bolts,
>> winding some wire arround the stationary electrodes, put a small
>> neodymium magnet on it and use the scope to measure the timing. Works
> great!
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Lau" <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:31 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [TCML] SRSG question
>>
>>
>>  I cannot over-emphasize how important being able to use the
>>> Freau-controller
>>> to adjust the phase in real time is.  The difference in performance
>>> with only slight phase variations is huge.  If I had to adjust the
>>> phase blindly through trial and error, I'd have given up long before
>>> achieving success.
>>> There is no way to use a timing light to determine the optimal phase
>>> setting.  It can only be determined experimentally.
>>>
>>> Regards, Gary Lau
>>> MA, USA
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
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